Prospective new owner a few questions
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Hi All thinking about getting a Monaro will have about £11000 to spend so will looking for something within the next 5 months,
Having looked at the forum I have a concern the dreaded Piston Slap do all of these engines (LS1) have this problem or is it just your luck in getting one that does not suffer from this.
If I find a 50000 mile+ one and quiet on cold start and noise level remains the same after a run, does this mean that this engine is unlikely to suffer from this problem later on.
Any other notable issues and weakness's that are expensive and annoying to repair,
Any specialists in the Glasgow area
Sorry if these questions are previously answered else where
Having looked at the forum I have a concern the dreaded Piston Slap do all of these engines (LS1) have this problem or is it just your luck in getting one that does not suffer from this.
If I find a 50000 mile+ one and quiet on cold start and noise level remains the same after a run, does this mean that this engine is unlikely to suffer from this problem later on.
Any other notable issues and weakness's that are expensive and annoying to repair,
Any specialists in the Glasgow area
Sorry if these questions are previously answered else where
[quote=mobius]Hi All thinking about getting a Monaro will have about £11000 to spend so will looking for something within the next 5 months,
Having looked at the forum I have a concern the dreaded Piston Slap do all of these engines (LS1) have this problem or is it just your luck in getting one that does not suffer from this.
If I find a 50000 mile+ one and quiet on cold start and noise level remains the same after a run, does this mean that this engine is unlikely to suffer from this problem later on.
Any other notable issues and weakness's that are expensive and annoying to repair,
Any specialists in the Glasgow area
Sorry if these questions are previously answered else where
first of all welcome, i presume your in scotland? theres a few of us up here including me and monaro5.7 (si) in edinburgh.
i wouldnt worry to much about pistonslap it doesnt seem to effect the engines life in anyway (considering its not to bad) and on the ls1's it only seems to effect the pre 04 ones. none of which should be ours.
i dont think your engine will develop pistonslap, you either have it or you dont from new.
running costs blah blah as per expected 20 round town, 28+ on a run. heavy right foot low teens!
servicing is cheap, just tyres i find a regular expence.
your budget should get you a nice cv8
happy shopping!!!!
Having looked at the forum I have a concern the dreaded Piston Slap do all of these engines (LS1) have this problem or is it just your luck in getting one that does not suffer from this.
If I find a 50000 mile+ one and quiet on cold start and noise level remains the same after a run, does this mean that this engine is unlikely to suffer from this problem later on.
Any other notable issues and weakness's that are expensive and annoying to repair,
Any specialists in the Glasgow area
Sorry if these questions are previously answered else where
first of all welcome, i presume your in scotland? theres a few of us up here including me and monaro5.7 (si) in edinburgh.
i wouldnt worry to much about pistonslap it doesnt seem to effect the engines life in anyway (considering its not to bad) and on the ls1's it only seems to effect the pre 04 ones. none of which should be ours.
i dont think your engine will develop pistonslap, you either have it or you dont from new.
running costs blah blah as per expected 20 round town, 28+ on a run. heavy right foot low teens!
servicing is cheap, just tyres i find a regular expence.
your budget should get you a nice cv8
happy shopping!!!!
Edited by k15tox on Sunday 15th November 20:47
thnaks for quick reply just when you read the horror stories of new engines, and pockets aint endless so its just a put up with it and hope it does not get any worse.
About 10 miles from Glasgow, just started looking at them one of a choice I am looking at so in research mode just now.
So on the whole pretty reliable then
About 10 miles from Glasgow, just started looking at them one of a choice I am looking at so in research mode just now.
So on the whole pretty reliable then
mobius said:
Hi All thinking about getting a Monaro will have about £11000 to spend so will looking for something within the next 5 months,
Having looked at the forum I have a concern the dreaded Piston Slap do all of these engines (LS1) have this problem or is it just your luck in getting one that does not suffer from this.
If I find a 50000 mile+ one and quiet on cold start and noise level remains the same after a run, does this mean that this engine is unlikely to suffer from this problem later on.
Any other notable issues and weakness's that are expensive and annoying to repair,
Any specialists in the Glasgow area
Sorry if these questions are previously answered else where
Hi mate. I see your from Scotland and i suspect Glasgow.If you wanna know more and see some cars there is a group of us meeting next Saturday. There should be 2 04 plated CV8 Monaro`s there and a 07 VXR Monaro aswell. so if you would like to come along and ask ur questions just let me know.
Having looked at the forum I have a concern the dreaded Piston Slap do all of these engines (LS1) have this problem or is it just your luck in getting one that does not suffer from this.
If I find a 50000 mile+ one and quiet on cold start and noise level remains the same after a run, does this mean that this engine is unlikely to suffer from this problem later on.
Any other notable issues and weakness's that are expensive and annoying to repair,
Any specialists in the Glasgow area
Sorry if these questions are previously answered else where
Hi mate. I see your from Scotland and i suspect Glasgow.If you wanna know more and see some cars there is a group of us meeting next Saturday. There should be 2 04 plated CV8 Monaro`s there and a 07 VXR Monaro aswell. so if you would like to come along and ask ur questions just let me know.
mobius said:
Hi All thinking about getting a Monaro will have about £11000 to spend so will looking for something within the next 5 months,
Having looked at the forum I have a concern the dreaded Piston Slap do all of these engines (LS1) have this problem or is it just your luck in getting one that does not suffer from this.
If I find a 50000 mile+ one and quiet on cold start and noise level remains the same after a run, does this mean that this engine is unlikely to suffer from this problem later on.
Any other notable issues and weakness's that are expensive and annoying to repair,
Any specialists in the Glasgow area
Sorry if these questions are previously answered else where
mobius, firstly hello. Secondly this forum is at times like the emporers new clothes. One has a problem then everyone has the problem. Look at warped brakes as an example of the hysteria that can crop up. People also forget these are pushrod engines and completely different to ohc's. Ignore the issue of pistonslap, its probably only a handful that seemed effected Having looked at the forum I have a concern the dreaded Piston Slap do all of these engines (LS1) have this problem or is it just your luck in getting one that does not suffer from this.
If I find a 50000 mile+ one and quiet on cold start and noise level remains the same after a run, does this mean that this engine is unlikely to suffer from this problem later on.
Any other notable issues and weakness's that are expensive and annoying to repair,
Any specialists in the Glasgow area
Sorry if these questions are previously answered else where
Cheers guys will see if I am working next Saturday If I can get away may take trip to Glasgow will be in touch If I can
Oh well fears are getting less, been looking theres a nice black one 3 miles from me an 05 6.0ltr VXR but a bit too steep at £15k
so a facelift 5.7 would probably be what I would be looking for, if I decide to go for one.
I know all cars have weak spots but if slapping live-able with will just be a chatracteristic of engine, but why are some replaced/ rebuit under warranty if you can live with it??
Oh well fears are getting less, been looking theres a nice black one 3 miles from me an 05 6.0ltr VXR but a bit too steep at £15k
so a facelift 5.7 would probably be what I would be looking for, if I decide to go for one.
I know all cars have weak spots but if slapping live-able with will just be a chatracteristic of engine, but why are some replaced/ rebuit under warranty if you can live with it??
mobius said:
Cheers guys will see if I am working next Saturday If I can get away may take trip to Glasgow will be in touch If I can
Oh well fears are getting less, been looking theres a nice black one 3 miles from me an 05 6.0ltr VXR but a bit too steep at £15k
so a facelift 5.7 would probably be what I would be looking for, if I decide to go for one.
I know all cars have weak spots but if slapping live-able with will just be a chatracteristic of engine, but why are some replaced/ rebuit under warranty if you can live with it??
if it was me ... i would pay the extra and get the 6.0vxr ...Oh well fears are getting less, been looking theres a nice black one 3 miles from me an 05 6.0ltr VXR but a bit too steep at £15k
so a facelift 5.7 would probably be what I would be looking for, if I decide to go for one.
I know all cars have weak spots but if slapping live-able with will just be a chatracteristic of engine, but why are some replaced/ rebuit under warranty if you can live with it??
and i stand by this as i did it when i got mine new ...could have got 2nd hand 5.7 s/c ap's wortec..for same £ as new 6.0vxr ....
glad i took the 6.0vxr home
IMO
stigmundfreud said:
Yep I would say the same but the 5.7 is no bad car
i agree ... was a hard choice from new, but alot less painful £ wise 2nd hand .....if you can get the extra £ go for the 6.0vxr ...better still
both ...then save the extra £ ...you will Edited by 007 VXR on Sunday 15th November 23:36
Some owners will be such a PITA that it's not worth Vauxhall argueing the case. 
It's been said on other threads that early Sierra Cosworths used to suffer from slap when cold (without the engine suffering). The Gudgeon pin was moved to cure it on later engines.
Just treat the engines with a bit of mechanical sympathy when cold, and they will be fine. The engines are big, and according to my gauges ours take about 15 miles to get the oil up to temperature.
It's been said on other threads that early Sierra Cosworths used to suffer from slap when cold (without the engine suffering). The Gudgeon pin was moved to cure it on later engines.
Just treat the engines with a bit of mechanical sympathy when cold, and they will be fine. The engines are big, and according to my gauges ours take about 15 miles to get the oil up to temperature.
6.0 ltr one would be prefered choice but I don't think the wife would let me stretch it that far, but you never know, she might treat me.
my cars never really get up to optimum temp, as work is 8 mins away but the same for any car if a turbod car would need to wait to have fun.
the one near me has done 60k looks the dogs
From looking on a thread on here why is it worsr if slap is only on 1 piston?
BUT
from what I can gather then treat the engine sympathetically when cold regular good oil changes and engine life expectancy should be good for a lot of years (would probably keep a hold of it for 4-5 years like to get my moneys worth
sorry for dumb ass questions but research is always a good thing
my cars never really get up to optimum temp, as work is 8 mins away but the same for any car if a turbod car would need to wait to have fun.
the one near me has done 60k looks the dogs
From looking on a thread on here why is it worsr if slap is only on 1 piston?
BUT
from what I can gather then treat the engine sympathetically when cold regular good oil changes and engine life expectancy should be good for a lot of years (would probably keep a hold of it for 4-5 years like to get my moneys worth
sorry for dumb ass questions but research is always a good thing
mobius said:
Cheers guys will see if I am working next Saturday If I can get away may take trip to Glasgow will be in touch If I can
Oh well fears are getting less, been looking theres a nice black one 3 miles from me an 05 6.0ltr VXR but a bit too steep at £15k
so a facelift 5.7 would probably be what I would be looking for, if I decide to go for one.
I know all cars have weak spots but if slapping live-able with will just be a chatracteristic of engine, but why are some replaced/ rebuit under warranty if you can live with it??
Oh well fears are getting less, been looking theres a nice black one 3 miles from me an 05 6.0ltr VXR but a bit too steep at £15k
so a facelift 5.7 would probably be what I would be looking for, if I decide to go for one.
I know all cars have weak spots but if slapping live-able with will just be a chatracteristic of engine, but why are some replaced/ rebuit under warranty if you can live with it??
We are meeting just outsie Edinburgh mate but just let me know.
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