Thor Racing - Chassis Dyno Services
Thor Racing - Chassis Dyno Services
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Gelf VXR

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713 posts

238 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Japanese Perfomance Specialist, how ever

"Even if the ECU you require or have already is not listed we are confident to be able to correctly set your vehicle up to it's optimum performance and driveability"

I believe I saw them on Top Gear when the looked into Shell V power, BP Ultimate fuels?


Has anyone any experience with this company and mapping their GM V8?


Happy with my Duno day results, but I'm sure theres more to come.


I have LS2 heads, intake and fuel rail FS in anyones interested, no TB thou

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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TBH I'd stick with the known specialists. Mark at Rapid has his own dyno and years of tuning experience on these cars (and Corvettes/Moslers/Ultimas etc). He also has access to lots of other tuning specialists in Australia he makes use of.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 2nd December 13:38

stevieturbo

18,103 posts

278 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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Whilst they will undoubtedly have experience tuning cars, and Ive purchased some ecu's from them in the past.

Unless they have experience working with your chosen software ( EFILive or HPT ) you would be better looking elsewhere.

Having a dyno isnt important, but an ability to work with the ecu in question is ultra important.

thetapeworm

13,894 posts

270 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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They took the 2JZ out of their Supra and put a V8 into it a while ago and have a fair bit of experience with a wide range of cars AFAIK, not sure on the Monaro side though.

ringram

14,702 posts

279 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2009
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I used their hub dyno helping a guy with an Ultima out. He is a good bloke.

Also Gelf knows efilive and the ecu so together Im sure they can get some good results.

Gelf if you send me a copy of your log and tune Ill give you a few ideas to ponder.

What Gelf probably needs is some help with general dyno tuning best practices etc rather than any fundamentals.

V8HSV

2,457 posts

283 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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Paul from Wortec has used them many times, been there too & can recc but then I prefer hub dyno set up

TerryS

1,382 posts

279 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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I used to know Pete Betts who owns Thor pretty well before he started Thor. That was when he designed Mobile Phone parts for a living and drove a MKIV Supra. Pete is a lovely guy, brilliant with electronics design. His automotive knowledge back then was not the best, but that was a fair time ago now (probably 10 years+) and I am sure he has become a decent mapper in that time. The Thor hub dyno used to be notorious for over reading(& not a little bit like you guys believe Rapid's is). That may have changed now. Pete did put a V8 (Lexus I think) in his Supra, although I am not sure it ever made any real power. They also used to be the UK AEM Distributor but that came to a strange end and I "think" they sell Link stuff now.

Anyway, really nice guy, but if it were me I would stick with someone who has in depth knowledge of you specific engine type (not saying they don't but definitely ask the question).

stevieturbo

18,103 posts

278 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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They do indeed sell Link and offer good support for them. They used to sell AEM....whilst I dont know why they stopped. I can say AEM are a total nightmare to work with, and unreliable.

The sensible person would stop selling them lol Pity really, as they do cover a good range of cars in plug in format. AEM's have more menu's than all the chinese restaraunts in the UK put together. And thats for the easy stuff !

As for the hub dyno. As a tuning tool, clearly it has a lot of advantages over a roller/tyre type dyno. The numbers are largely irrelevant though. Ive only ever been on one Dynapack, and I suspect the numbers were a little high. Perhaps more in line with a Dynojet.

But again, when tuning its the increases and decreases that matter. Not actual number.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

291 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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ringram said:
I used their hub dyno helping a guy with an Ultima out.
Yes you did quite a long time ago to. I spoke with him a few weeks back. He says it's getting better all the time now he's clocked up some decent track mileage on it at Spa etc. Absolutely zero issues in the last 18 months - 2 years.

Gelf VXR

Original Poster:

713 posts

238 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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Thanks for all the feed back, my plan is to book some dyno time in the spring with their tuner and me assist with my knowledge the ecu maps etc and efilive.


Still got a few things to do before I'm ready, Richards going to cringe lol I want to go with a 100mm MAF to an enclosed K&N filter with CIA fed through the wing from the spoiler. I have seen the new OTRCAI, but Ilike to be different lol

ringram

14,702 posts

279 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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Well someone always has to come in second mate, it might as well be the one running the maf wink

FWIW: I think you should use an L98 M6 Holden SS timing map as a base as it probably represents the closest setup to what you have, being a 6L with L92 heads as well. The LS2 combustion chamber is different and as far as I understand it the L92 heads are designed for a longer burn time for emissions etc, so probably need a litte more spark lead. Maybe compare the HO Timing tables anyway. Maybe also take a look at the HSV LS3 aka VXR8 timing map for comparison. Should get you closer as a base before dialing it in on the dyno. You should get your fueling sorted first if possible to save the ££ on the dyno.

Gelf VXR

Original Poster:

713 posts

238 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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ringram said:
Well someone always has to come in second mate, it might as well be the one running the maf wink

FWIW: I think you should use an L98 M6 Holden SS timing map as a base as it probably represents the closest setup to what you have, being a 6L with L92 heads as well. The LS2 combustion chamber is different and as far as I understand it the L92 heads are designed for a longer burn time for emissions etc, so probably need a litte more spark lead. Maybe compare the HO Timing tables anyway. Maybe also take a look at the HSV LS3 aka VXR8 timing map for comparison. Should get you closer as a base before dialing it in on the dyno. You should get your fueling sorted first if possible to save the ££ on the dyno.
I can't see that on the repositorty, can you post on the efi forum if you have it?

I used 12617631 LS3 corvette HO map with a few tweeks.


ringram

14,702 posts

279 months

Gelf VXR

Original Poster:

713 posts

238 months

Thursday 3rd December 2009
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