So then..........

[anonymous-user]

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[S800VXR]

fesuvious said:

So then, I now find myself in the Monaro forum.
Trying to decide between an Esprit or Monaro, but the Monaro is a little ahead.

Hoping to tap into the knowlage here:

Whats the best online resource / buying guide?

Is this monarooverpriced?

Also, there is a twin turbo in the Classifieds that really tickles my fancy but at nearly 24k I am wondering if its worth it? Also, how reliable would it be?

Are there any major checkpoints? Or any optional extras etc etc

Help! I may just be about to go shopping!

On stock pistons you are walking on Glass... I got away with it for a while but paid in the end. Best on line resourse has got to be in this forum TBH, NA tuned Ro will be very reliable and Rich will tell you how good they are as I dont know since NA does not give enough power for me

[Magic919]

I think he's saying supercharged is fine provided the engine has forged internals. He's very wise after the event these days.

[S800VXR]

fesuvious said:

Is that another way of saying 'buy a supercharged one'...?

My recent history:
911 < not fast, not slow
M5 E39, Pretty darn quick (440 on the rollers)
928GTS with mods, considered that to be pretty darn quick

Go for the S/C ?

Supercharged or turbo, stock pistons are not up to it really but lots try. I had an E39 M5 for a while as well and it was very nice but miles away from a SC RO in terms of performance! If you can get a decent SC one with forged pistons Id jump at it, you cant go wrong really and they are rare so lots of people ask questions about them. Club here does lots of meets in the summer as well and by and large there a good bunch, apart from some bird called Bonnie!

[crisisjez]

At low boost (a la VXR500) they are fine without forged internals. The only problem is keeping them at low boost as the power is so addictive

[Bonnie and Clyde]

S800VXR said:

fesuvious said:

Is that another way of saying 'buy a supercharged one'...?

My recent history:
911 < not fast, not slow
M5 E39, Pretty darn quick (440 on the rollers)
928GTS with mods, considered that to be pretty darn quick

Go for the S/C ?

Supercharged or turbo, stock pistons are not up to it really but lots try. I had an E39 M5 for a while as well and it was very nice but miles away from a SC RO in terms of performance! If you can get a decent SC one with forged pistons Id jump at it, you cant go wrong really and they are rare so lots of people ask questions about them. Club here does lots of meets in the summer as well and by and large there a good bunch, apart from some bird called Bonnie!

I agree with S800 Bonnie's a bitch but there's a nice girl on here called Mel

[stigmundfreud]

Esprit every day and night.

[Bonnie and Clyde]

stigmundfreud said:

Esprit every day and night.

Weirdo

[stigmundfreud]

Bonnie and Clyde said:

stigmundfreud said:

Esprit every day and night.

Weirdo

??

The esprit just isnt in a different league, its in a different world. That is a real classic car, great looks, handling to boot. Mate has one, I always wanted one - the two cars as a choice it would be the Esprit

[Bonnie and Clyde]

stigmundfreud said:

Bonnie and Clyde said:

stigmundfreud said:

Esprit every day and night.

Weirdo

??

The esprit just isnt in a different league, its in a different world. That is a real classic car, great looks, handling to boot. Mate has one, I always wanted one - the two cars as a choice it would be the Esprit

I agree I just wanted to call you a weirdo

[stigmundfreud]

Bonnie and Clyde said:

stigmundfreud said:

Bonnie and Clyde said:

stigmundfreud said:

Esprit every day and night.

Weirdo

??

The esprit just isnt in a different league, its in a different world. That is a real classic car, great looks, handling to boot. Mate has one, I always wanted one - the two cars as a choice it would be the Esprit

I agree I just wanted to call you a weirdo;)

[Magic919]

I'd question the wisdom of getting a VXR500. Why buy a supercharged car with a small blower and more importantly, no intercooler? Got for at least a 122 blower and a cooler. Keep to 9psi or lower and enjoy. /discuss

[doleboy]

WHS ^ VXR500 was and is still a nice limited edition car, but you can buy another model and upgrade it yourself to your own requirements. Just make sure its got a big boot and the right diff.

[doleboy]

The VXR500 is non intercooled and deployed a Harrop 112 blower on stock internals.
Subsequently, Wortec offered an intercooled Harrop 122 setup, which lots of guys enjoyed and upgraded with varying degrees of robustness.

Currently, there are blower kits like the Magnuson TVS1900 and TVS2300 which are even more effecient than the HH122 and of course will be intercooled.

If you look at a non-VXR500 with a view to upgrading it, you should factor in that it'll need headers, sports-cats and most likely a cat back to get what you want out of the S/C upgrade.

There are of course other routes to performance such as normally aspirated heads & cam, turbos, or centrifugal S/C's rather than the more common PD blowers like the Harrops/Maggies.

[stigmundfreud]

stock vxr8's produce more power at the wheels than supercharged monaros

[HSV_Rulz]

Hi fesuvious, if you can make it here tomorrow (Sat) at 1300 there will be a collection of 7 or 8 Monaro's and VXR8's of various models and states of mod to drool over.

http://www.pub-explorer.com/kent/pub/sherwoodoakwa...

[doleboy]

stigmundfreud said:

stock vxr8's produce more power at the wheels than supercharged monaros

LOL. So do some NA 5.7 VXR's.

Must be the diff

[HSV_Rulz]

stigmundfreud said:

stock vxr8's produce more power at the wheels than supercharged monaros

They need to - to shift their lardy arses

[crisisjez]

Like Magic said, the VXR500 is non intercooled, get an aftermarket install that has the intercooler as a better bet. And it`ll be cheaper.

[doleboy]

HSV_Rulz said:

stigmundfreud said:

stock vxr8's produce more power at the wheels than supercharged monaros

They need to - to shift their lardy arses