On the hunt, couple questions, couple of cars

[SimonV8ster]

Can't see how that red one has nearly 500 bhp with just the mods he is talking about. Must have some other extras otherwise wouldn't be near that I don't think.

[Drew SS]

the red 1 looks class

[007 VXR]

1st one looks very good and very good price

2nd not so good on price when you look at 1st one .plus high miles

3rd not so good if you want to mod as ,no charge cooler
and a lot less power than , 1st one

IMO 1st one.. easy choice .
.good price low miles and S/C
buy it NOW ... again IMO ..sim spec to mine

Edited by 007 VXR on Friday 18th December 19:26

[007 VXR]

fesuvious said:

How close is the first one to its limit?

p.s Not interested in modding further beyond chassis. Will be happy to leave the mechanicals as I find them.

but I do want in excess of 450BHP............

Edited by fesuvious on Friday 18th December 19:25

mine is 498.7 rwhp 635.3fly ...no issues runs like a dream

use good fuel (99ron) and oil service it every 8months if high miles , keep toped up with oil monthly warm her up well before going fix anything asap ...should be fine .had mine 3yrs 07887720868 call if you like mark 007

p,s. at its limit (pistons) wont like much more if push hard

Edited by 007 VXR on Friday 18th December 19:36

[after_shock]

Ive seen the silver one in the metal and is in very good condition.

Silver and black are both good prices and nice cars, just depends if you want silver or Black I suppose!

[ARAF]

I like the red one, though if it ever produced that power, then there's more to the engine than is being let on.

I see that the car has visited Monkfish, so maybe they are worth a call....

[anonymous-user]

fesuvious said:

How close is the first one to its limit?

p.s Not interested in modding further beyond chassis. Will be happy to leave the mechanicals as I find them.

but I do want in excess of 450BHP............

Edited by fesuvious on Friday 18th December 19:25

It (the first one) will be fine, Mark at RapidGB doesn't run more than 9psi of boost with a conservative tune, hence 580hp. It will give you many years of amusing service if maintained properly. Looks the best of the bunch by far, buy it I say.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 18th December 19:56

[petrolzed]

The silver supercharged one looks lovely.
Check out that engine bay!
Buy it, as you are getting around £10K's worth of extras for about 3 grand.
Mark at Rapid really knows his stuff.
If I had not bought my VXR8 I would would be looking to buy this car.

[after_shock]

The silver one is incredibly clean, wish could get my engine bay that spotless, would take days!!

[crisisjez]

The silver one gets my vote too

[hsv_v8]

I currently own the red one thats up for sale! regarding the power output it was measured on Rapid GB rollers at 413bhp at the wheels (just to clear that up!) no other mods, only headers, race cats and K&N with remap.

[petrolzed]

413BHP at the wheels is a fantastic figure for what is essentially a std car.
I would have guessed at around 360 with those mods.
I bet the VXR500 will not have much more at the wheels.

[baptist]

Silver is good value, but you'd have to do the brakes on that thing, so theres another 2k.

I bought a VXR 500, alright its not 580bhp, but 500 is more than enough in this car, and its got all the brakes/suspension already done.

[anonymous-user]

petrolzed said:

413BHP at the wheels is a fantastic figure for what is essentially a std car.
I would have guessed at around 360 with those mods.
I bet the VXR500 will not have much more at the wheels.

I think we've all realised by now it's pointless comparing different dyno results. Mark's dyno was used this month to compare hot hatches for EVO magazine (Jan 2010); here's what it said:

Renault sport Megane 250 cup
claimed power: 247hp. Measured power: 268hp (+21hp)

Seat Leon Cupra R
claimed power: 261hp. Measured power: 274hp (+13hp)

Golf GTI
claimed power: 207hp. Measured power: 229hp (+22hp)

Ford Focus RS
claimed power: 301hp. Measured power: 279hp (-22hp)

As you can see: some over, some under. Better to use dyno results as a mechanism to measure improvements in mods. Comparing different cars with different mods, on different days is pointless.

[426Hemi]

http://www.quickars.co.uk/21156/stock.htm

Why not get a VXR8, Quickars has a fair few.

[hsv_v8]

petrolzed said:

413BHP at the wheels is a fantastic figure for what is essentially a std car.
I would have guessed at around 360 with those mods.
I bet the VXR500 will not have much more at the wheels.

My thoughts entirely, it does feel quite strong but I was very pleased with the gain found after mapping although the car had previously had what Mark thought was a Wortec map. My car is also on ebay now, moving to the dark side and going for a Nazi wagon to trundle up and down the motorway! Might see mine go for £13750 if anyone is interested?

[hsv_v8]

fesuvious said:

Hi hsv, you may recognise my username here from the ebay question I asked.
I am interested in yours. Will have to let fate play its hand as it looks like I need to get past xmas and new year before I actually have the time to go out and buy a car (works nuts).

The silver one: Yes, the brakes crossed my mind too, even just upgrading the discs and pads will see £500 vanish, and, tbh, I don't think Id see any gain on the road from the extra power. So that ones out.

The VXR500, hhmmmm, just to be able to own one of such few numbers would be good but, not sure the drop in economy and higher maintenence & road tax is worth it.

At the moment hsv, yours has my vote. If its still for sale, Il defo be in touch.

Are there any points worth knowing? Anything looming? Anything wrong?
ETA
Exhaust note nice?

Although if that red ones gone then the VXR500 will be at the top of the list again!

scrap that last exhaust q

hsv_v8 from a previous thread said:

Hi, I went down the magnaflow cat back route (built for the GTO) for my VXR and only required minor bending of the rear silencer hangers via some gentle heating with a blow tourch and re-use of the original front gasket (before x pipe). Despite the lack of mid silencers and much reduced rear silencer size the sound was quite nice and bassy but not intrusive at all on the motorway but popped nicely on the overrun. Recently I added wortec headers (thanks Tony) and the volume has increased considerably, the sound is a lot more raw and aggressive but at motorway speed is similar if not a little quieter. If you want I could send through a sound clip with the magnaflow cat back?

If you still have that sound clip?...........

Edited by fesuvious on Saturday 19th December 20:26

Hi, well I have owned the car for over a year and I can honestly say it has been faultless. There are two minor points that would need looking at and that is the usual rear boot spoiler rubbing on the boot lid (common issue) and also again the drivers door handle edge paint flaking slightly although I never considered it to be a problem.
As you know all the wheels and tyres are as new and it has always been serviced by Monkfish since I owned it,also recently changed rear discs and pads a few months back.
Regarding the exhaust I never got round to getting a sound clip but I can guarantee you will not be disappointed! I mainly use the car for 300 mile round trips down the motorway and the exhaust is actually very civilised inside at motorway speeds but has a very throaty growl now with the headers, very pleased with the results! Chances are at this time of year the car will still be about for a bit, plus im not in a desperate panic to sell but if if there are any other points you want to know then just give me a ring. Cheers,Kev.

[crisisjez]

fesuvious said:

The VXR500, hhmmmm, just to be able to own one of such few numbers would be good but, not sure the drop in economy and higher maintenence & road tax is worth it.

Contrary to what you may be told, the VXR500 will be MORE economical than a std VXR. Regarding maintenance costs these should be similar as the superchargers are sealed units. The only additional cost will be belt wear, and running low boost this will be minimal. Road Tax also is unaffected by a supercharger.

I strongly recommend you drive both back to back prior to making a choice.

[007 VXR]

+1 you need to drive the cars ....dont see brakes being a promlem as lond as you dont drive like a nutter round the streets on the S/C silver one ....mine are standard with do issues and work fine .....saying that i would not go on a track with standard brakes..

[007 VXR]

if you dont want the extra power and are worryed about brakes

go with hsv v8;s red one and save the money ..vxr500 not worth the extra 7k .... IMO

but i would say ...IMO you are wrong about the power on the road .. you can feel the diffrent

good luck with your choice