Tempy what's the latest re wheel juddering

[maxmc2]

You mentioned a while back about brake juddering under braking about 50 etc which others also experienced, did you ever get to the bottom of it I think roger was going to have a look at it for you if so I'd be interested to hear about it.

Cheers

[Tempy]

Hi,

My last visit to the fish was to finish off the performance pac, headers, high flow cats etc and it took the whole day. I didn't really have time to get any more investigation done. I will ask the fellas to take a look the next time i'm at the fish. I've had my wheels balanced out 3 times by various people and it still does it from time to time, so I'm not convinced at all that it's balancing. I still think it's disc related.

I've owned the car since Feb 07 and it's always had the AP's on there and I never had a problem. It only seems to have cropped up since having new discs and pads on the front last year.

I'm afraid the investigation continues.

[snowwolf]

I had a bit of a wheel wobble when I got the car, even after I had new tyres fitted I still had it, but after I had my wheels refurbed at lepsons and balanced at lepsons the wheel wobble has gone.

[gsd2000]

try getting the wheels balanced again at the fishes or somewhere that uses a balancing machine like the fish.

[Tempy]

I had them balanced twice at Boxley tyres and the last time I took it to Lepsons a couple fo months back and had all four wheels balanced again. It still does it, so that's the reason I don't think it's the wheels.

[snowwolf]

The only other thing I had done at lepsons was to have the full front face of all the wheels skimmed on a lathe, do you know if the wheels on your car are being fitted back on in the same possition after the balancing?

If they are I would suggest swapping the rears for the fronts and see if that makes any difference, I have alaways had wheel wobble on the landcruiser, but after disc changes its fine, but now know it was not the discs but loose wheel bearings, might be worth lifting the front wheels up off the ground one at a time and seeing if you have a bit of looseness in the bearing.

[gsd2000]

According to the fish tyres can be out of balance to the tyre. You need a balancer that can check tyre load like the one they have. But like you say could be the disks. I would refit them first and clock the disk, no point paying to reskim the disk if its not needed. Just a thought.

[monkfish1]

Balancing is all good and well, but a conveentional balance cant find other reasons for vibration. For those like me that find these things interesting, check out this link. Its all the info on our new balancer.

www.pro-align.co.uk/products/pdfs/5606TE-05%20-%20GSP9700%20-%20Rev%2006-07.pdf

That said, vibration under braking ONLY, is almost certainly brake related.

[snowwolf]

Looseness in any of the ball joints steering and bearings can also make the slightest of brake problem wobble worse at the steering wheel.

[maxmc2]

Track rod ends perhaps?

[After_Shock]

Ive also got a mystery wobble, appears around about 60mph not badly then goes, it also occassionally does it under braking but then again the rest of the time it doesnt do it, as its not doing it all the time its not driving me mad but it is starting to get annoying!

Ive had front and rear wheels balanced twice now, swapped the fronts to the back and had 4 new tyres on in the space of 3 months, if the AP discs are causing it or not is unknown but im going to have to get it investigated further before it gets worse, but where to start!?

[gsd2000]

Aftershock, try and get the wheels balanced using a super duper balancer like the fishes. The balancer they have also reads tyre load, and by the sounds of it should be able to eliminate unbalanced wheel wooble due to the number of checks it does. Plus it has a laser

[monkfish1]

gsd2000 said:

Aftershock, try and get the wheels balanced using a super duper balancer like the fishes. The balancer they have also reads tyre load, and by the sounds of it should be able to eliminate unbalanced wheel wooble due to the number of checks it does. Plus it has a laser

WHS^^^^^ You wouldn't believe the stuff it finds! At least that way you can eliminate or otherwise your wheel/tyres from your investigations.

It will almost certainly be the wheel/tyre from the symptom you describe.

[after_shock]

Cheers I will get it done when its in for a service with yourselves probs in March at some point.

Cars currently off the road so no major rush to do it, I hope the machine does find the issue!!

[gsd2000]

The fish has just balanced my wheels using their fancy balancer, and my wheel wooble has gone

[007 VXR]

gsd2000 said:

The fish has just balanced my wheels using their fancy balancer, and my wheel wooble has gone

worked on mine to
but not sams

Edited by 007 VXR on Tuesday 12th January 20:39

[Tempy]

Well I will hopefully be at the Fish soon doing the swap with Mark's old wheels, need to speak to them to book in. Hopefully their new fangled doohicky machine will sort it, although I will be having new wheels put on so I may not need it anyway.

[007 VXR]

Tempy said:

Well I will hopefully be at the Fish soon doing the swap with Mark's old wheels, need to speak to them to book in. Hopefully their new fangled doohicky machine will sort it, although I will be having new wheels put on so I may not need it anyway.

they will have to do it to your new wheels when they fit your tyres