Noise from car, poss wheel related - advice please
Noise from car, poss wheel related - advice please
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Wolfracer

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237 months

Sunday 24th January 2010
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Heard it once myself whilst reversing, but the mrs says she has heard it a few times now. It did it today whilxt driving on a straight-ish road, but she said a little wiggle of the steering wheel stopped it.....
THE NOISE:
A vibration based squeak/whine, comparable to wet brakes on a bicycle that sqeak, not very high pitched and doesn't seem particularly speed related in terms of the pitch of the sound.
THE CONDITIONS:
Generally when turning sharp corners, but like I said it happened today on a straight...
Sporadic noise, not on every corner, or reproducable on demand - (similar to the diff "clunk" in that respect)

First thoughts were worn wheel bearings or a stone caught somewhere. Do our cars have metal deflectors on the back of the (standard) discs that could be vibrating???? Thoughts please?

maxmc2

2,063 posts

216 months

Sunday 24th January 2010
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Cv joint perhaps?

Wolfracer

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Sunday 24th January 2010
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maxmc2 said:
Cv joint perhaps?

IMHO probably not as it "squeaked" when i was reversing at quite literally 1 mph. Wouldn't have thought the prop would be going around fast enough to produce this noise, but I may be wrong!

crisisjez

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Sunday 24th January 2010
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Next time you get the noise try touching the brakes to see if it goes, could be a sticky piston, had the same on mine on my first set of AP`s.

Wolfracer

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Sunday 24th January 2010
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Will do...

wolfracer

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Sunday 24th January 2010
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Wolfracer said:
Will do...

ETA
Just spoke to Mrs Wolfracer, she said tapping the brakes does not cure it....

crisisjez

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236 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Then its the disc shield.

Bonnie and Clyde

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Monday 25th January 2010
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Karma





Sorry mate, hope you sort it

Wolfracer

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Monday 25th January 2010
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Bonnie and Clyde said:
Karma



Okay, Okay you can have the Trophy....

...however you will need to let me borrow your Ro (or at least your diff!) to show Stigmund his motor's not all that!

Wolfracer

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Tuesday 9th March 2010
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crisisjez said:
Next time you get the noise try touching the brakes to see if it goes, could be a sticky piston, had the same on mine on my first set of AP`s.
Got the chance to give the car a good drive last weekend. Only does it when everything is up to temperature - generally when turning at islands, junctions etc.. Strange thing is the noise doesn't particular change with wheel speed.confused Deffo brake related (stnd 05 discs and friction pads) as tapping the brake peday does stop the noise, however it does return once you let off.

So...
If it is a sticky piston Jez, how do I check or get it looked at? and what's the fix?

NB
Mechanically minded but the last set of brakes I changed were on a Mk2 escort in 1996...

_AJ_

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Tuesday 9th March 2010
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I think I've had this as well with APs, and it drove me mad, mainly beause I could never reproduce it at the right time to demonstrate to the dealer. I didn't really know what it was then though. If these things are prone to sticky pistons then that explains a lot. Not happened since I had the coilovers fitted, which I guess is down to the fact they've been off and back on the car in the process?

stigmundfreud

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241 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Wolfracer said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
Karma



Okay, Okay you can have the Trophy....

...however you will need to let me borrow your Ro (or at least your diff!) to show Stigmund his motor's not all that!


no help on this one noises = impossible over the net but I just noticed this comment but bwahahahahaahahaha

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monkfish1

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255 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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Wolfracer said:
crisisjez said:
Next time you get the noise try touching the brakes to see if it goes, could be a sticky piston, had the same on mine on my first set of AP`s.


Got the chance to give the car a good drive last weekend. Only does it when everything is up to temperature - generally when turning at islands, junctions etc.. Strange thing is the noise doesn't particular change with wheel speed.confused Deffo brake related (stnd 05 discs and friction pads) as tapping the brake peday does stop the noise, however it does return once you let off.

So...
If it is a sticky piston Jez, how do I check or get it looked at? and what's the fix?

NB
Mechanically minded but the last set of brakes I changed were on a Mk2 escort in 1996...


Wheel bearing.

Wolfracer

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Tuesday 9th March 2010
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monkfish1 said:
Wolfracer said:
crisisjez said:
Next time you get the noise try touching the brakes to see if it goes, could be a sticky piston, had the same on mine on my first set of AP`s.


Got the chance to give the car a good drive last weekend. Only does it when everything is up to temperature - generally when turning at islands, junctions etc.. Strange thing is the noise doesn't particular change with wheel speed.confused Deffo brake related (stnd 05 discs and friction pads) as tapping the brake peday does stop the noise, however it does return once you let off.

So...
If it is a sticky piston Jez, how do I check or get it looked at? and what's the fix?

NB
Mechanically minded but the last set of brakes I changed were on a Mk2 escort in 1996...


Wheel bearing.


Do you keep em in stock?

Will have a dismantle at the weekend and check. Without going outside in the dark to check, is it a half shaft out jobby or can they be changed with the shafts in?

monkfish1

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255 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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We keep all the wheel bearings in stock. Shaft off, trailing arm off and in a press for the rears. fronts are just bolted on.

Wolfracer

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Tuesday 9th March 2010
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monkfish1 said:
We keep all the wheel bearings in stock. Shaft off, trailing arm off and in a press for the rears. fronts are just bolted on.

Oh!

Its the Rear...



Still gonna check at the weekend JUST IN CASE its the brakes! (fingers crossed!)

Will let you know Roger. I suppose its a gradual decay is it?

Wolfracer

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Saturday 13th March 2010
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Fingers were crossed, went for a quick drive to wam things up, and subsequently had to brake sharply for part of a group of "weekend" bikers who wanted to "convoy" instead of "give way"...terrible scraping noise from suspect corner. Drove home gently and parked up. Slgiht scoring on disc but nothing too serious a few miles on some new friction pads won't sort.
Now, question is, do braided lines add any extra "stopping power" in the sense of a firm pedal, or is it a case standard brakes stop in a standard time? iirc a couple of people were looking at these a while ago? Any results?
TIA
BTW MF1 or 2, Will need a set of rear pads please - will call you monday.

MyM8V8

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226 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Wolfracer said:
Fingers were crossed, went for a quick drive to wam things up, and subsequently had to brake sharply for part of a group of "weekend" bikers who wanted to "convoy" instead of "give way"...terrible scraping noise from suspect corner. Drove home gently and parked up. Slgiht scoring on disc but nothing too serious a few miles on some new friction pads won't sort.
Now, question is, do braided lines add any extra "stopping power" in the sense of a firm pedal, or is it a case standard brakes stop in a standard time? iirc a couple of people were looking at these a while ago? Any results?
TIA
BTW MF1 or 2, Will need a set of rear pads please - will call you monday.
No. Just gets to ultimate pressure milliseconds earlier.

Wolfracer

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Saturday 13th March 2010
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MyM8V8 said:
Wolfracer said:
Fingers were crossed, went for a quick drive to wam things up, and subsequently had to brake sharply for part of a group of "weekend" bikers who wanted to "convoy" instead of "give way"...terrible scraping noise from suspect corner. Drove home gently and parked up. Slgiht scoring on disc but nothing too serious a few miles on some new friction pads won't sort.
Now, question is, do braided lines add any extra "stopping power" in the sense of a firm pedal, or is it a case standard brakes stop in a standard time? iirc a couple of people were looking at these a while ago? Any results?
TIA
BTW MF1 or 2, Will need a set of rear pads please - will call you monday.


No. Just gets to ultimate pressure milliseconds earlier.


Ah okay, thanks Gareth, so just the pads then? On another note, are the red stuff and yellow stuff any good? Or better stickng (no pun intended!) to the friction pads from the fish? Only red stuff is a fair bit cheaper?

gsd2000

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214 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Wolfracer said:
MyM8V8 said:
Wolfracer said:
Fingers were crossed, went for a quick drive to wam things up, and subsequently had to brake sharply for part of a group of "weekend" bikers who wanted to "convoy" instead of "give way"...terrible scraping noise from suspect corner. Drove home gently and parked up. Slgiht scoring on disc but nothing too serious a few miles on some new friction pads won't sort.
Now, question is, do braided lines add any extra "stopping power" in the sense of a firm pedal, or is it a case standard brakes stop in a standard time? iirc a couple of people were looking at these a while ago? Any results?
TIA
BTW MF1 or 2, Will need a set of rear pads please - will call you monday.
No. Just gets to ultimate pressure milliseconds earlier.
Ah okay, thanks Gareth, so just the pads then? On another note, are the red stuff and yellow stuff any good? Or better stickng (no pun intended!) to the friction pads from the fish? Only red stuff is a fair bit cheaper?
Doesn't brummie with the tvr sell a different brand of brake pads? I can't remember the name but it may be another one to think about