Does turning off radio, air con etc improve power?
Does turning off radio, air con etc improve power?
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Wolfracer

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2,074 posts

237 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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Started having a discussion at work about this, but had to shut up when couldn't justify it!
Theory goes using "electricity" in the car saps energy (output) from the engine, therefore reducing power/using more fuel. What I don't get though is, if your alternator or Air con pump is belt driven, then surely that belt is spinning all the while? so if it is charging the battery or not is irrelevant?
So where's the power loss??confused


stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

241 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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its clutched so when driven it does take more power to turn it

as for radio, hang your head!

Wolfracer

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2,074 posts

237 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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stigmundfreud said:
its clutched so when driven it does take more power to turn it

as for radio, hang your head!


Aha! thx.

Radio was an example. My CD changer still has "the best Christmas songs...EVER! 2008" in it, that's how much use it gets!

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

241 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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how much use vs how sad you are wink Sarah makes me listen to that ste every year

Wolfracer

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Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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stigmundfreud said:
how much use vs how sad you are Sarah makes me listen to that shite every year


hehe makes you....

...yeah right! hehe Mel said you had pictures of Noddy (not Big Ears' mate)and Roy Wood on your bedroom walls when she stayed over....

Nothing wrong with Xmas AT XMAS, but shite in the summer, but then I wouldn't hear it past the open windows...

Getting itchy for some WOT in the dry now.

monkfish1

12,470 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Your air con turns itself off when you go WOT.

Del-Dredd

42 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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My Impreza used to do that as well, although in that and even more so in the Ro I doubt you would notice.
In my old Sunny GTI, you could tell when the Aircon switched in while cruising or acclerating slightly, as you could feel the slight drop in forward motion as it loaded the engine.

I imagine it is even more pronounced in these small 1 Litre cars as everything seems to get Aircon these days, then again the aircon in them is probably electric to prevent stalling the engine.

Del

2woody

919 posts

241 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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turning air-con off can help to the tune of up to 25HP or thereabouts.

regarding the radio, assuming that EVERYTHING you have is turned on and the alternator is putting out, say 100A, then that whole load, even allowing for the alternator to be only 50% efficient, adds up to only 3HP.

probably the greatest contribution would be by closing the windows, but depending on how fast you are going. Aerodynamic drag increases at the square of the speed.

2woody

919 posts

241 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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turning air-con off can help to the tune of up to 25HP or thereabouts.

regarding the radio, assuming that EVERYTHING you have is turned on and the alternator is putting out, say 100A, then that whole load, even allowing for the alternator to be only 50% efficient, adds up to only 3HP.

probably the greatest contribution would be by closing the windows, but depending on how fast you are going. Aerodynamic drag increases at the square of the speed.

V2RAC

463 posts

230 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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The greater the load on the alternator the stiffer it is to spin. Noticeable on cars with small engines, at tickover if the heated rear screen is turned on the revs will drop slightly. Wouldn't have thought it would make much difference to our FBEs.