a few issues i could do with some help with
a few issues i could do with some help with
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vxr monaro

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34 posts

207 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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My warrantee is about to run out and the car is in with Vauxhall at the moment it went in with the following issues

1. Water Temp guage will go up in traffic then elec fan cuts in and it drops to normal ok. can get just above 1/2 way on the guage. i thought the car had a viscous fan, shoudl this happen. i have climate ocntrol on all the time.

2. oil pressure when cold goes up to about 5 bar if i drive it to the 4k limit, is this normal?

3. it has used about 1 1/2 to 2 litres of oil in 6000 miles is this normal?

4. if i drive it hard 1-2nd is ok 2-3 ok 3-4 hard to engage as the clutch is biting really low. is this a clutch fluid change required?


basically Vauxhall are saying there is nothing wrong with the car and everything is as required.

monkfish1

12,470 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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vxr monaro said:
My warrantee is about to run out and the car is in with Vauxhall at the moment it went in with the following issues

1. Water Temp guage will go up in traffic then elec fan cuts in and it drops to normal ok. can get just above 1/2 way on the guage. i thought the car had a viscous fan, shoudl this happen. i have climate ocntrol on all the time.

2. oil pressure when cold goes up to about 5 bar if i drive it to the 4k limit, is this normal?

3. it has used about 1 1/2 to 2 litres of oil in 6000 miles is this normal?

4. if i drive it hard 1-2nd is ok 2-3 ok 3-4 hard to engage as the clutch is biting really low. is this a clutch fluid change required?


basically Vauxhall are saying there is nothing wrong with the car and everything is as required.


1. Radiator needs topping up. 05 car i assume?
2. Pefectly normal. The oil is cold. Dont rag it until it is warm!
3. The clutch is knackered. Common problem. LS7 clutch required (or similar)

broadslide

739 posts

231 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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If car has done less than 18,500 miles there is a good chance you will get clutch done under warranty. You might need to chase the regional guy from VX if the dealer isn't willing!

vxr monaro

Original Poster:

34 posts

207 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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monkfish1 said:
vxr monaro said:
My warrantee is about to run out and the car is in with Vauxhall at the moment it went in with the following issues

1. Water Temp guage will go up in traffic then elec fan cuts in and it drops to normal ok. can get just above 1/2 way on the guage. i thought the car had a viscous fan, shoudl this happen. i have climate ocntrol on all the time.

2. oil pressure when cold goes up to about 5 bar if i drive it to the 4k limit, is this normal?

3. it has used about 1 1/2 to 2 litres of oil in 6000 miles is this normal?

4. if i drive it hard 1-2nd is ok 2-3 ok 3-4 hard to engage as the clutch is biting really low. is this a clutch fluid change required?


basically Vauxhall are saying there is nothing wrong with the car and everything is as required.


1. Radiator needs topping up. 05 car i assume?
2. Pefectly normal. The oil is cold. Dont rag it until it is warm!
3. The clutch is knackered. Common problem. LS7 clutch required (or similar)



many thanks monkfish!

i presume item 3 is for item 4! ie hard to engage

what about oil useage?

cars done 44k miles
its a 2007 (56 reg) yes yes i know it was built previously to this!!!

granada203028

1,500 posts

228 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Oil consumption 1/3 litre of oil per 1000 miles sounds unusual for an LS V8, my own LS1 uses practically none. However in absolute terms it is not very high you cannot expect any sort of warrantee claim to be successful, up and above looking for leaks and checking the crankcase breather systems etc.

The clutch is a consumable wear dependant part, I think only guaranteed for 2500 miles or 3 months. So I'm sure any investigation will be at your own expense. These clutches are well documented as miss behaving under hard use but are fine in normal driving. If you subscribe to the fluid maladies then you could ask for it to be changed. Again it is not going to be warrantee.

monkfish1

12,470 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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vxr monaro said:
monkfish1 said:
vxr monaro said:
My warrantee is about to run out and the car is in with Vauxhall at the moment it went in with the following issues

1. Water Temp guage will go up in traffic then elec fan cuts in and it drops to normal ok. can get just above 1/2 way on the guage. i thought the car had a viscous fan, shoudl this happen. i have climate ocntrol on all the time.

2. oil pressure when cold goes up to about 5 bar if i drive it to the 4k limit, is this normal?

3. it has used about 1 1/2 to 2 litres of oil in 6000 miles is this normal?

4. if i drive it hard 1-2nd is ok 2-3 ok 3-4 hard to engage as the clutch is biting really low. is this a clutch fluid change required?


basically Vauxhall are saying there is nothing wrong with the car and everything is as required.


1. Radiator needs topping up. 05 car i assume?
2. Pefectly normal. The oil is cold. Dont rag it until it is warm!
3. The clutch is knackered. Common problem. LS7 clutch required (or similar)



many thanks monkfish!

i presume item 3 is for item 4! ie hard to engage

what about oil useage?

cars done 44k miles
its a 2007 (56 reg) yes yes i know it was built previously to this!!!


Ah yes, got the numbers mixed up. the oil consumption is higher than average, but nothing to be concerned about. A change of oil type would probably change that.

vxr monaro

Original Poster:

34 posts

207 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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my 2 litres comparison was based on the dip stick having 1.5 litres between min and max.

is this correct?

oh and it was 7000 miles.

Glyn84

668 posts

211 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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vxr monaro said:
my 2 litres comparison was based on the dip stick having 1.5 litres between min and max.

is this correct?
When I looked in the manual at the weekend for the very same reason (to check oil usage) it says 1.6 litres from min to max, so yeah that's right.

after_shock

8,751 posts

251 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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May have had a similar clutch issue in mine the other night, went out for a drive about no problems, gave it a bit of stick through 2nd, 3rd and changed into 4th went to change into 5th and the pedal had gone really heavy.

Stopped shortly after for a bite to eat set off again driving normally no problems, gave it a bit of stick in 3rd and 4th put my foot down on the clutch and again gone heavy, changed to 5th and pottered for a few minutes and the problem had gone.

Is this a clutch knackered problem?

nosubstitute

750 posts

213 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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My LS1 uses no oil but never gets used for short journeys or stop start commuter type mileage just longish runs of 25/30 miles at a time

As far as warranty goes that means entrusting the car to a main dealer. Not something I would be prepared to do with something as specialised as the Monaro/VXR8

broadslide

739 posts

231 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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after_shock said:
May have had a similar clutch issue in mine the other night, went out for a drive about no problems, gave it a bit of stick through 2nd, 3rd and changed into 4th went to change into 5th and the pedal had gone really heavy.

Stopped shortly after for a bite to eat set off again driving normally no problems, gave it a bit of stick in 3rd and 4th put my foot down on the clutch and again gone heavy, changed to 5th and pottered for a few minutes and the problem had gone.

Is this a clutch knackered problem?
Hi James Exactly the same symptons as mine. Are you out of warranty yet? If you are it looks like group purchase of an LS7 clutch!!!

Charlie

Bonnie and Clyde

11,701 posts

223 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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broadslide said:
after_shock said:
May have had a similar clutch issue in mine the other night, went out for a drive about no problems, gave it a bit of stick through 2nd, 3rd and changed into 4th went to change into 5th and the pedal had gone really heavy.

Stopped shortly after for a bite to eat set off again driving normally no problems, gave it a bit of stick in 3rd and 4th put my foot down on the clutch and again gone heavy, changed to 5th and pottered for a few minutes and the problem had gone.

Is this a clutch knackered problem?


Hi James Exactly the same symptons as mine. Are you out of warranty yet? If you are it looks like group purchase of an LS7 clutch!!!

Charlie
I may be wrong but i think our Monaro will be in need of an LS7 clutch this year. I haven;t experienced what you guys have but it feels a bit sticky sometimes. Have had fluid changed but will keep an eye on it.
I was quite surprised at how cheap they are

after_shock

8,751 posts

251 months

Monday 15th February 2010
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broadslide said:
after_shock said:
May have had a similar clutch issue in mine the other night, went out for a drive about no problems, gave it a bit of stick through 2nd, 3rd and changed into 4th went to change into 5th and the pedal had gone really heavy.

Stopped shortly after for a bite to eat set off again driving normally no problems, gave it a bit of stick in 3rd and 4th put my foot down on the clutch and again gone heavy, changed to 5th and pottered for a few minutes and the problem had gone.

Is this a clutch knackered problem?


Hi James Exactly the same symptons as mine. Are you out of warranty yet? If you are it looks like group purchase of an LS7 clutch!!!

Charlie


Yeah thats exactly what I thought and yeah out of warranty at beginning of March. Problem is I dont know if its worth risking doing Thunder road now as ive not got any time off until the weekend in March when its on so wont be able to do anything about it!!

broadslide

739 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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When I took mine in after TR, with about six weeks warranty left, they wouldn't entertain doing the clutch because of the mileage. Mine had done 20,200 miles and the limit for replacement under warranty was 18,500 miles.That came from VX after I contacted them. The tight buggers wouldn't even help out on a contribution. What they did say was that all new clutches supplied by them for LS2/3 spec cars would be LS7.Make sure your dealer hasn't got an old LS2 in stock. Good luck.

vxr monaro

Original Poster:

34 posts

207 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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on mine essentially i give it stick 1-2 then 2-3 then hard to go in 4 the clutch really low. if i double clutch it, it is fine. seems as though the fluid is buggered more than the clutch.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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after_shock said:
broadslide said:
after_shock said:
May have had a similar clutch issue in mine the other night, went out for a drive about no problems, gave it a bit of stick through 2nd, 3rd and changed into 4th went to change into 5th and the pedal had gone really heavy.

Stopped shortly after for a bite to eat set off again driving normally no problems, gave it a bit of stick in 3rd and 4th put my foot down on the clutch and again gone heavy, changed to 5th and pottered for a few minutes and the problem had gone.

Is this a clutch knackered problem?
Hi James Exactly the same symptons as mine. Are you out of warranty yet? If you are it looks like group purchase of an LS7 clutch!!!

Charlie
Yeah thats exactly what I thought and yeah out of warranty at beginning of March. Problem is I dont know if its worth risking doing Thunder road now as ive not got any time off until the weekend in March when its on so wont be able to do anything about it!!
yikes cant see thunder rd being to much of an issue as its just a mile run then plenty of time for it to cool down before the next run smile

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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vxr monaro said:

1. Water Temp guage will go up in traffic then elec fan cuts in and it drops to normal ok. can get just above 1/2 way on the guage. i thought the car had a viscous fan, shoudl this happen. i have climate ocntrol on all the time.


Might not be the same thing, but I recently had an overheating in traffic thing going on. In traffic the gauge would zoom up to into the red, and then once I started moving again it would settle back down again.

Monkfish's suggestion is of course correct - fill the radiator up - cos everytime I checked mind I needed a 'significant' amount of water. Question is of course, where was the water going....

In my case this was solved by having the radiator cap replaced under warranty. A known problem apparently (according to the local VX dealer I use - one of the reputable ones btw) - you can see if your cap is not sealing properly as there was clear evidence of a water trail from the cap down the radiator.

New cap, problem completely gone.

If you've still got warranty left I'd get it sorted out.

vxr monaro

Original Poster:

34 posts

207 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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my filler cap doesnt seat properly (the plastic one not ontop of rad) one of the plastic lugs has snapped off so i guess the system may not be pressurising correctly and causing the issue

after_shock

8,751 posts

251 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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neiljohnson said:
after_shock said:
broadslide said:
after_shock said:
May have had a similar clutch issue in mine the other night, went out for a drive about no problems, gave it a bit of stick through 2nd, 3rd and changed into 4th went to change into 5th and the pedal had gone really heavy.

Stopped shortly after for a bite to eat set off again driving normally no problems, gave it a bit of stick in 3rd and 4th put my foot down on the clutch and again gone heavy, changed to 5th and pottered for a few minutes and the problem had gone.

Is this a clutch knackered problem?


Hi James Exactly the same symptons as mine. Are you out of warranty yet? If you are it looks like group purchase of an LS7 clutch!!!

Charlie


Yeah thats exactly what I thought and yeah out of warranty at beginning of March. Problem is I dont know if its worth risking doing Thunder road now as ive not got any time off until the weekend in March when its on so wont be able to do anything about it!!


yikes cant see thunder rd being to much of an issue as its just a mile run then plenty of time for it to cool down before the next run


Is the clutch likely to let go if I do Thunder road? I only did 4 runs last time and not fussed on doing anymore than that really.

Major problem ive got if it does let go I will be in Ipswich and live in the North East, a 5 hour drive probably 8 hours in a recovery truck which I really dont fancy!!

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th February 2010
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after_shock said:
neiljohnson said:
after_shock said:
broadslide said:
after_shock said:
May have had a similar clutch issue in mine the other night, went out for a drive about no problems, gave it a bit of stick through 2nd, 3rd and changed into 4th went to change into 5th and the pedal had gone really heavy.

Stopped shortly after for a bite to eat set off again driving normally no problems, gave it a bit of stick in 3rd and 4th put my foot down on the clutch and again gone heavy, changed to 5th and pottered for a few minutes and the problem had gone.

Is this a clutch knackered problem?
Hi James Exactly the same symptons as mine. Are you out of warranty yet? If you are it looks like group purchase of an LS7 clutch!!!

Charlie
Yeah thats exactly what I thought and yeah out of warranty at beginning of March. Problem is I dont know if its worth risking doing Thunder road now as ive not got any time off until the weekend in March when its on so wont be able to do anything about it!!
yikes cant see thunder rd being to much of an issue as its just a mile run then plenty of time for it to cool down before the next run smile
Is the clutch likely to let go if I do Thunder road? I only did 4 runs last time and not fussed on doing anymore than that really.

Major problem ive got if it does let go I will be in Ipswich and live in the North East, a 5 hour drive probably 8 hours in a recovery truck which I really dont fancy!!
unless you drive with zero mechanical sympathy i cant see it causing you a problem as clutches only get hot when they are slipping. The ride in a recovery truck would be worth it though biggrin Alternative is do what i do 007 snowolf and sw02tec are all going from my area so stick car on truck and hitch a lift laugh