Suspension
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Boggie

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393 posts

253 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Hi All,

As well as brakes, I want to tighten up the front end and generally improve the handling of the car. The car already has the Monkfish road response and rear end kit but the car is a long way from where I would like it to be. Admittedly, I have come from a 300KG lighter, low CoG, 4WD car with sports suspension and big rubber so the Monaro feels lumbering by comparison but I would like to improve it as much as my wallet will allow.

Essentially I want the car to change direction much more precisely and quickly with little or no body roll. I don't mind the suspension being a little harsh but I want to retain my fillings and I need to do this as cheaply as possible as I still have a lot of other mods to fund (Brakes, LPG, Stereo, etc, etc). So, I am considering the following additions and have some questions:

Uprated Strut Brace: Can anyone point me at one that fits over the Harrop please?
HD drop links: Will this make any difference to handling or just strengthen the drop links?
Quick Steering Rack: Will this give me more 'feel' at the wheel? Standard PS rack is completely disconnected from the front tyres.

Then: either the Peddlers suspension kit OR the Peddlers Xtreme coilover kit.

Obviously the Peddlers suspension kit is considerably cheaper than the coilovers and money is an issue. However, I like the idea of adjustable damping but perhaps the Peddlers suspension kit is damped just right and does not need adjusting. I don't care too much about ride height as I thing the standard height is good and apart from dragging my Wortec over speed humps I am no fan of the slammed Max Power look.

Can anyone with experience of these upgrades let me know their thoughts please?

Thanks,
B


gsd2000

11,515 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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I would say go for a set of uprated anti roll bars, they should improve the overall handling of the car and reduce the bodyroll and they wont alter the ride height.

nosubstitute

750 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Monkfish have just fitted the Pedders suspension kit to my CV8 with the low setting and it has transformed the car. Excellent body control but in my opinion still needs the ARBs doing to make it how I want it ultimately. I couldn't justify the extra expense of the coilovers and instead spent a little extra getting the guys to remove the rear subframe when rust proofing the car.

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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gsd2000 said:
I would say go for a set of uprated anti roll bars, they should improve the overall handling of the car and reduce the bodyroll and they wont alter the ride height.
I'd agree with that - and that's the way I'll be going. A strut brace is pretty ineffective unless you have a cage fitted which triangulates the top with the floor of the car.

after_shock

8,751 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Im currently researching coilover suspension heavily as its my next major mod, unfortunately as I will need a new clutch this year dont have as much money as would have wanted to spend on this upgrade so am looking at all the alternatives.

The pedders is simply out of the price range but have found a few other ones that are a possibility.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

218 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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after_shock said:
Im currently researching coilover suspension heavily as its my next major mod, unfortunately as I will need a new clutch this year dont have as much money as would have wanted to spend on this upgrade so am looking at all the alternatives.

The pedders is simply out of the price range but have found a few other ones that are a possibility.
if your at T/R can take you for a spin in mine if you like

gsd2000

11,515 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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The HSD coilovers are suppose to be good, plus with the HSD's you can spec your spring rates and even buy additional springs for i think £100 a pair.

I was under the impression though that with the HSD's you need different droplinks and new topmount bearings which are not included in the price, but i could be wrong. When i was looking into coilovers the HSD's were out of stock which is why i went for the pedders plus the fish had just dropped the price so worked out about the same price. Speak to Driftworks if you are interested in the HSD's though

007 VXR

64,187 posts

218 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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boggie .. were are you based ?

Ciscas

348 posts

208 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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I had the Pedders Coilovers fitted last month and I think they are worth the price. Quite firm but not uncomfortable. Also the car just looks better sitting low but even so I haven't had any problems with speed bumps yet. Then of course they can be adjusted to any taste.

AM04ARO

3,652 posts

246 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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I had the original adjustable AVO's which were upgraded (they creaked just a little).

Road response pack and track day pack from Monkfish. Both together make the car feel like it is on rails (I guess the peddars are similar) and wheelspin is much reduced (even with Racelogic).

Compared to the original set up it is chalk and chees although at very low speed it crashes around a bit. When you speed up it all seems to get nice and tight.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

218 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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the hsd's on mine stayed flat with no roll even going sideways at 70mph and then spinning 360 2x ..when i had big one frown

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

241 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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i can see this costing you a fortune to never get the full package you year for in the TT

monkfish1

12,508 posts

255 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Boggie said:
Hi All,

As well as brakes, I want to tighten up the front end and generally improve the handling of the car. The car already has the Monkfish road response and rear end kit but the car is a long way from where I would like it to be. Admittedly, I have come from a 300KG lighter, low CoG, 4WD car with sports suspension and big rubber so the Monaro feels lumbering by comparison but I would like to improve it as much as my wallet will allow.

Essentially I want the car to change direction much more precisely and quickly with little or no body roll. I don't mind the suspension being a little harsh but I want to retain my fillings and I need to do this as cheaply as possible as I still have a lot of other mods to fund (Brakes, LPG, Stereo, etc, etc). So, I am considering the following additions and have some questions:

Uprated Strut Brace: Can anyone point me at one that fits over the Harrop please?
HD drop links: Will this make any difference to handling or just strengthen the drop links?
Quick Steering Rack: Will this give me more 'feel' at the wheel? Standard PS rack is completely disconnected from the front tyres.

Then: either the Peddlers suspension kit OR the Peddlers Xtreme coilover kit.

Obviously the Peddlers suspension kit is considerably cheaper than the coilovers and money is an issue. However, I like the idea of adjustable damping but perhaps the Peddlers suspension kit is damped just right and does not need adjusting. I don't care too much about ride height as I thing the standard height is good and apart from dragging my Wortec over speed humps I am no fan of the slammed Max Power look.

Can anyone with experience of these upgrades let me know their thoughts please?

Thanks,
B




Based on what you are looking for, id recommend the suspension kit (low), Road Response Pac and Quick Rack. This will give you a setup that goes where you point it, is controlled and still retains a good degree of comfort.