T350 nose respray
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Sweller

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29 posts

230 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Just been quoted IRO £1500 to respray the front of our T350 excl the bonnet but incl paint, new headlamp lenses and VAT.

Does this sound reasonable and does anyone have any recommendations around London/SE.

Cheers

egoold

569 posts

291 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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That would sound about right to me, but am I wrong in thinking that the bonnet should be included in a front end respray?

Zippee

13,929 posts

257 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Sounds expensive to me for a front end. I've been quoted around £800 for a front end (silver metallic) including bonnet but not with new light covers.

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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How much?!?!

I've used TVR specialists in the past (several diffeent ones in fact), paid through the nose and not been that impressed.

Last year we took the Griff to a local coachworks, who charged considerably less than the sums mentioned here and did a better job than anyone I've previously used.

Personally, I'd shop around.

Getsis

1,547 posts

239 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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I paid £900

jrb43

891 posts

278 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Phillip J Bird in Billericay if that's anywhere close to you? Used to do Jaguar's concept cars for them. Immaculate work, great prices, lovely bloke to deal with.

rolex

3,119 posts

281 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Probably a stupid question but is prepping and paint spraying fibre glass any different from respraying metal? Do you think you would get a better job with a fibreglass specialist?

DonkeyApple

66,530 posts

192 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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If it's just a prep and blow in of the nose to get rid of stone chips etc then unless the colour is reflex etc then quite frankly anything more than a couple of hundred quid is a rip off.

At the end of the day it is a rub down and spray by someone on a very low hourly rate.

Used to pay £100 cash every few years on the Griff and less for smaller jobs on other cars.


mycroft

1,545 posts

270 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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I was quoted £280 , looks like i should have had it done rather than wait for a few more chips smile

leef44

5,147 posts

176 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Zippee said:
Sounds expensive to me for a front end. I've been quoted around £800 for a front end (silver metallic) including bonnet but not with new light covers.
This sounds about right. AaronC who had my car before me spent £1000 for the same work in Sussex on Pearl Blue.

potato muncher

613 posts

238 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
If it's just a prep and blow in of the nose to get rid of stone chips etc then unless the colour is reflex etc then quite frankly anything more than a couple of hundred quid is a rip off.

At the end of the day it is a rub down and spray by someone on a very low hourly rate.

Used to pay £100 cash every few years on the Griff and less for smaller jobs on other cars.
What do you know about rub down and spray, nothing by the sound of it. Do you think its a 5 minute job.
Every low paid hour and equipment etc has to be paid for.
If your fleet of cars is correct on your profile, how much an hour are you earning or are you ripping people off.

DonkeyApple

66,530 posts

192 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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potato muncher said:
What do you know about rub down and spray, nothing by the sound of it. Do you think its a 5 minute job.
Every low paid hour and equipment etc has to be paid for.
If your fleet of cars is correct on your profile, how much an hour are you earning or are you ripping people off.
An odd response and not sure I really understand what you are getting at.

It's manual labour and the kit required is not expensive, especially when amortised over the expected period of usage.

If it is a conventional paint colour then it is a very cheap bit of work to prep and blow in a front end to get rid of a few seasons of stone chips.

Like I said, a couple of hundred quid. Any more is either a rip off or far too much labour being employed for the task at hand or expensive premissis.

S26VE P

2,174 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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When i had the tuscan (was about 4 years ago) i caught the front on a kerb, took to a local place and got charged £400 for repair and paint to the whole front end, altho not a reflex they did have to search for the colour which turned out to be a ferrari blue and cost £80 for a litre. True to his word tho still £400 on collection

deeen

6,281 posts

268 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Hi Donkeyapple, S26VE, anyone else vaguely south east - would you mind sharing the names of your sprayers? Just been quoted a "we don't want the work" price for the front of mine.

S26VE P

2,174 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Dont have number to hand but will search it out for you.

deeen

6,281 posts

268 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Thanks for PMs.

V8 GRF

7,298 posts

233 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
It's manual labour and the kit required is not expensive, especially when amortised over the expected period of usage.

If it is a conventional paint colour then it is a very cheap bit of work to prep and blow in a front end to get rid of a few seasons of stone chips.

Like I said, a couple of hundred quid. Any more is either a rip off or far too much labour being employed for the task at hand or expensive premissis.
Missed this one as I was on holiday.

I'm not surprised you got a reaction to this comment, decent and I mean decent paintjobs don't come cheap as the kit and labour is not cheap. Preperation is all and the amount of time that is spent preparing the surface may well be classed as manual labour but it's still skilled, a decent surface to paint on is essential to the final finish and spraying in my opinion is an art. Any idiot can use spraycans and get something looking 'sort of right' by rubbing down between layers but that creates uneven finishes and thicknesses, which eventually show through or cause problems. Plastering looks easy when done by pros but if anyone's had a go you'll know just how difficult it really is.

Proper spraybooths that extract air and keep the temperatures correct etc etc are also far from cheap to both install and run. Anyone who doesn't do the job in anything but the correct conditions will be producing a substandard job that will come back to haunt you in a few years time as it flakes, bubbles or sinks.

I really believe that with paint jobs you get what you pay for and a cheap job is just false economy.

julianc

1,984 posts

282 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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V8 GRF said:
DonkeyApple said:
It's manual labour and the kit required is not expensive, especially when amortised over the expected period of usage.

If it is a conventional paint colour then it is a very cheap bit of work to prep and blow in a front end to get rid of a few seasons of stone chips.

Like I said, a couple of hundred quid. Any more is either a rip off or far too much labour being employed for the task at hand or expensive premissis.
Missed this one as I was on holiday.

I'm not surprised you got a reaction to this comment, decent and I mean decent paintjobs don't come cheap as the kit and labour is not cheap. Preperation is all and the amount of time that is spent preparing the surface may well be classed as manual labour but it's still skilled, a decent surface to paint on is essential to the final finish and spraying in my opinion is an art. Any idiot can use spraycans and get something looking 'sort of right' by rubbing down between layers but that creates uneven finishes and thicknesses, which eventually show through or cause problems. Plastering looks easy when done by pros but if anyone's had a go you'll know just how difficult it really is.

Proper spraybooths that extract air and keep the temperatures correct etc etc are also far from cheap to both install and run. Anyone who doesn't do the job in anything but the correct conditions will be producing a substandard job that will come back to haunt you in a few years time as it flakes, bubbles or sinks.

I really believe that with paint jobs you get what you pay for and a cheap job is just false economy.
Agreed.

The factory did a nose respray on my Halcyon Midas Pearl Tamora in 2003, cost £1400 then. They had to do it twice to get the perfect match. There is a lot of time spent preparing the base properly, but the cost will depend on your paint finish.



Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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julianc said:
Agreed.

The factory did a nose respray on my Halcyon Midas Pearl Tamora in 2003, cost £1400 then. They had to do it twice to get the perfect match. There is a lot of time spent preparing the base properly, but the cost will depend on your paint finish.
Sorry, but if they're that good surely they should get it right first time?

DonkeyApple

66,530 posts

192 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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V8 GRF said:
DonkeyApple said:
It's manual labour and the kit required is not expensive, especially when amortised over the expected period of usage.

If it is a conventional paint colour then it is a very cheap bit of work to prep and blow in a front end to get rid of a few seasons of stone chips.

Like I said, a couple of hundred quid. Any more is either a rip off or far too much labour being employed for the task at hand or expensive premissis.
Missed this one as I was on holiday.

I'm not surprised you got a reaction to this comment, decent and I mean decent paintjobs don't come cheap as the kit and labour is not cheap. Preperation is all and the amount of time that is spent preparing the surface may well be classed as manual labour but it's still skilled, a decent surface to paint on is essential to the final finish and spraying in my opinion is an art. Any idiot can use spraycans and get something looking 'sort of right' by rubbing down between layers but that creates uneven finishes and thicknesses, which eventually show through or cause problems. Plastering looks easy when done by pros but if anyone's had a go you'll know just how difficult it really is.

Proper spraybooths that extract air and keep the temperatures correct etc etc are also far from cheap to both install and run. Anyone who doesn't do the job in anything but the correct conditions will be producing a substandard job that will come back to haunt you in a few years time as it flakes, bubbles or sinks.

I really believe that with paint jobs you get what you pay for and a cheap job is just false economy.
I disagree. Not because a 'serious' paint job doesn't take a lot of time and also skill and so will be expensive but that it is not reviewing the situation at hand and making the right choice.

If someone is looking to blow in the front end after a couple of years of motoring then this is a direct result of the owner's style of driving and it is a consumeable.

You have the situation where the owner wishes to remove stone chips but has a style that seems them keep returning. Ergo, the sensible choice/calculation to make is that you will be blowing in the front end every other year. Having the world's greatest paint job done in each time in this scenario simply isn't logical.

Leaving the more complex paints, such as reflex, out, prepping the front end, filling the chips and then blowing in and getting an excellent match is just not an expensive bit of work. The key is certainly in finding someone with the ability but the costs that have been mentioned on here for a blow in are simply mad, a total waste for the reasons I mention above.