Has anyone ever seen this on a T350
Has anyone ever seen this on a T350
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pistonwhite

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173 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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http://www.petersmithsportscars.com

If anyone has the time to take a look at the T350 thats for sale on the above website.
It seems to have an induction feed cut out of the front end.

Does anyone one no a realistic need for this or was it? Maybe an engine upgrade of sorts?

It just looked a strange and very none TVR way of doing things.

Thanks in advance as my search for a T350 continues.

clive f

7,259 posts

256 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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I would guess that it gives an extra airfeed from the front of the car, more of a high pressure area than under the car.
the hose connected to the naca duct inside would go to the front face of the airbox under the air filter, as well as the normal feed to the airbox from underneath, it should give an extra cold air intake, which in theory would mean better power.

some one has spent quite a bit of money on this mod considering the bodywork and respray invovled on te front end.

peteA

2,758 posts

257 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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For some reason I seem to remember this being in an edition of the TVRCC Sprint mag....but can't remember the details?

pistonwhite

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Thursday 3rd November 2011
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In terms of the cost, thats exactly what I thought.
Maybe it looks better person but i'm not sure it suits the cars form?

Zippee

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257 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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pistonwhite said:
In terms of the cost, thats exactly what I thought.
Maybe it looks better person but i'm not sure it suits the cars form?
I agree, it really spoils the smooth looks of the T350s front end.

pistonwhite

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Thursday 3rd November 2011
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peteA said:
For some reason I seem to remember this being in an edition of the TVRCC Sprint mag....but can't remember the details?
Anyone else had memories triggered about this?

slimtater

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193 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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Email me for details - it is my car!

pistonwhite

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Thursday 3rd November 2011
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Much appreciated. Email now sent.

slimtater

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193 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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A couple of pics that show the front:



pistonwhite

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Thursday 3rd November 2011
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I've been looking at the previous posts.
I'm now liking the air feed (funny how things change)

Looks and sounds an awesome T350

slimtater

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193 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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The great thing about the internet - you at least have somewhere to keep your pics other than on a failed hard-drive!:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

DonkeyApple

66,454 posts

192 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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pistonwhite said:
I've been looking at the previous posts.
I'm now liking the air feed (funny how things change)

Looks and sounds an awesome T350
It's funny, I'm probably gping to have to go down this route to get enough air into my engine as it's starved at present.

The Tuscan has a nice big down pipe that sucks in more than enough air. I assumed the T350 has the same system?

The 3.6 has no need for extra air and the 'cooler air' argument isn't exactly a proven fact.

I can't imagine that the scoop delivers any real performance improvement at all on this particular car or engine.

Luckily it looks to have been done well.

slimtater

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193 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
It's funny, I'm probably gping to have to go down this route to get enough air into my engine as it's starved at present.

The Tuscan has a nice big down pipe that sucks in more than enough air. I assumed the T350 has the same system?

The 3.6 has no need for extra air and the 'cooler air' argument isn't exactly a proven fact.

I can't imagine that the scoop delivers any real performance improvement at all on this particular car or engine.

Luckily it looks to have been done well.
The extra 50bhp and 10mph must have come from elsewhere then? ;-)

Seriously though, it is a Marmite thing and I suppose it would need lots of back to back testing to prove or disprove any improvement. For example, at a constant 70mph it might only increase cold airflow by 10 l/m or reduce intake temps by 1 degree, but you could argue that any improvement is an improvement nonetheless!

robsco

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199 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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slimtater said:
The extra 50bhp and 10mph must have come from elsewhere then? ;-)
Am I reading incorrectly, is it tongue in cheek, or are you suggesting that air feed gives you an extra 50bhp??

DonkeyApple

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192 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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slimtater said:
The extra 50bhp and 10mph must have come from elsewhere then? ;-)

Seriously though, it is a Marmite thing and I suppose it would need lots of back to back testing to prove or disprove any improvement. For example, at a constant 70mph it might only increase cold airflow by 10 l/m or reduce intake temps by 1 degree, but you could argue that any improvement is an improvement nonetheless!
I suspect it has.

A hole on the front isn't going to give a 15% improvement on a rolling road without any of the possible benefit of ram effect or cooler air.

Especially on an engine (3.6) that has all the air it already needs to perform at it's best.

Mine was designed to run forced induction so the airbox draws from the front down long pipes to a small box. As the car is currently NA we have a clear issue that the standard air feed is highly restrictive.

So far the only reliable solution is to cut a vent in the bonnet which I am reluctant to do, even though this is exactly what the NA race cars had.

slimtater

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193 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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robsco said:
Am I reading incorrectly, is it tongue in cheek, or are you suggesting that air feed gives you an extra 50bhp??
Very much tongue in cheek that one....


....but how many people could I convince? :-)

clive f

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256 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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slimtater said:
Very much tongue in cheek that one....


....but how many people could I convince? :-)
a few on here possiblyhehe

robsco

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199 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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slimtater said:
Very much tongue in cheek that one....


....but how many people could I convince? :-)
There'll be some I'm sure...

BCA

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280 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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clive f said:
I would guess that it gives an extra airfeed from the front of the car, more of a high pressure area than under the car.
the hose connected to the naca duct inside would go to the front face of the airbox under the air filter, as well as the normal feed to the airbox from underneath, it should give an extra cold air intake, which in theory would mean better power.

some one has spent quite a bit of money on this mod considering the bodywork and respray invovled on te front end.
PH'er Barefoot IIRC?

I suspect it is a bit of Tesco tuning - 'every little helps' - I'd actually go this route if it was a no-cost option for various reasons. Interesting that the Winstanley racer ended up with dual 'nostrils' and always ran with induction from the front - I suspect possibly due to the underneath being sealed/ flat floored?

pistonwhite

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Saturday 5th November 2011
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Looks the nuts with two even though its a different car in this image