Sagaris Lap Times
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RedSpike66

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2,342 posts

235 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Just found this whilst surfing. Interesting lap times from the 5th Gear Anglesey track....




Sicob

478 posts

251 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Radical SR3 19th!!! I don't think so somehow!

YRRunner

1,652 posts

239 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Sicob said:
Radical SR3 19th!!! I don't think so somehow!
It was a girl driving it to be fair.

D14 AYS

3,696 posts

233 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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YRRunner said:
Sicob said:
Radical SR3 19th!!! I don't think so somehow!
It was a girl driving it to be fair.
hehe

sibo99

227 posts

191 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Yep vikki's letting this down lol..
Elise and vx220 less bhp with road tyres quicker than a 240 exige?


m3jappa

6,883 posts

241 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Maybe some of the times are wet laps?


RedSpike66

Original Poster:

2,342 posts

235 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Nope, they're girl times LoL !
Probably get a redcard for that..

steveT350C

6,728 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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aubrey9160

396 posts

205 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Five seconds a lap faster than a tamora for the t350 thats a lot and for it to be in front of the gt porsches thats some acheivement.

Sevenman

762 posts

215 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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aubrey9160 said:
Five seconds a lap faster than a tamora for the t350 thats a lot and for it to be in front of the gt porsches thats some acheivement.
Given the similarity between the cars, it is a surprise to see the Tamora 5 seconds down.

When you look at the detail, the Tamora has 5 more bhp (all cars left the factory like that), but the T350 is more than 1000kg lighter, and that will help.

Sevenman

762 posts

215 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Edited by Sevenman on Tuesday 14th February 22:54

Sevenman

762 posts

215 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Edited by Sevenman on Tuesday 14th February 22:53

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

214 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Sevenman said:
Given the similarity between the cars, it is a surprise to see the Tamora 5 seconds down.

When you look at the detail, the Tamora has 5 more bhp (all cars left the factory like that), but the T350 is more than 1000kg lighter, and that will help.
Would be very surprised if the Tamora is heavier than a T350 (No cage, no rear glass).

As an example, the brides Tam is sub 1000 Kilos (some carbon bits, no AC, big brakes)

No way same driver same conditions would be slower in a Tam, the other way around yes, but not 5 seconds.

RedSpike66

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2,342 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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The Rockingham lap times don't tell you the driver so impossible to compare really.. I'd probably be 5 secs slower in the Sag eek

SAGRIFF

2,312 posts

202 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Conditions and driver will make a far bigger difference than TVR Model.

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

305 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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TVR_owner said:
Sevenman said:
Given the similarity between the cars, it is a surprise to see the Tamora 5 seconds down.

When you look at the detail, the Tamora has 5 more bhp (all cars left the factory like that), but the T350 is more than 1000kg lighter, and that will help.
Would be very surprised if the Tamora is heavier than a T350 (No cage, no rear glass).

As an example, the brides Tam is sub 1000 Kilos (some carbon bits, no AC, big brakes)

No way same driver same conditions would be slower in a Tam, the other way around yes, but not 5 seconds.
Ah, but the T350 is (sub zero) weightless rofl

TOV!E

2,016 posts

257 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Look at the date (2003) is that right.?????????????????

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

305 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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TOV!E said:
Look at the date (2003) is that right.?????????????????
Build year of the car, for sure?

Jenx

11,579 posts

265 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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The M400 Noble weight is wrong...should be 1080kgs

Talksteer

5,415 posts

256 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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aubrey9160 said:
Five seconds a lap faster than a tamora for the t350 thats a lot and for it to be in front of the gt porsches thats some acheivement.
The T350 was being driven by Justin Wilson and Tacuma Sato plus some other touring car drivers in the Autocar 2003 handling day.

On the same day with the same conditions and drivers were: (ignore the dates on that website)

1. Palmer Jaguar JP1 1:14.20 133 '05 253 / 675
4. TVR T350C 1:19.40 124 '03 350 / 0
6. Porsche 911 GT3 1:20.20 123 '03 380 / 1380
9. Noble M12 GTO 1:21.35 121 '00 310 / 980
12. WestField XTR2 1:21.80 120 '05 180 / 410
13. Radical SR3 1:21.80 120 '02 205 / 495
15. Lamborghini Murcielago 1:22.20 120 '02 580 / 1800
18. Pagani Zonda C12 S 1:22.70 119 '00 558 / 1350
19. Subaru Impreza STI 1:22.80 119 '05 280 / 1390
22. Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1:23.40 118 '03 309 / 1410
27. Ford Focus RS 1:24.90 116 '03 215 / 1290
54. Jaguar XJR 1:29.00 111 '03 405 / 1628
55. Mazda RX-8 1:29.00 111 '02 231 / 1400

The T350C was the fastest car with doors and was only beaten by a JP1 and Gardner Douglas. The XTR2 was rain affected and the Radical was delivered with a "road set up" which made it hand abysmally. They commented that with a track setup they expected it to go as quick as the JP1.

The T350 was actually not as fast as the Noble GTO or the Porsche GT3 up the straights, it did however pull the highest g-force measured bar the JP1 and had the best brakes.

As far as T350 verses Tamora obviously in a straight line there is very little in it however on a flat track the T350's stiffer suspension, lower profile tyres and stronger brakes do make a fair bit of a difference not lease to driver confidence. That said some of the difference will be down to Tacuma Sato...