Anyone running Toyo R1Rs on standard spiders?

[darkmark07]

Apologies, once again PH search is DOWN, so another tyre question.

Currently got a mix of Goodyear Assys on the rear and Toyo T1-Rs on the front - all 4 need replacing over the winter and I'm thinking that R1Rs are the way to go.

From the Toyo website, the following sizes look likely candidates:

225/40ZR18 - 7.50-8-9.00
245/40ZR18 - 8.00-8.5-9.50
255/35ZR18 - 8.50-9-10.00

Does anyone have any experience with these on standard spiders and what sizes are you running?

TIA

Mark

[sidpinup]

Hi, I looked at these for my Tam but I think you will get a bit of rubbing as the sizes don't match up exactly. After lots of deliberation I have gone for Goodyear F1 asymmetric to replace the T1-Rs and I have to say I am very impressed with the grip and cope with the 4.3 engine well.

[Tom74TVR]

Hi,


I am running the 255/35ZR18 at the back and they are by far the best tyres I have had om my T350 (first time toyo's, never had the R888).
I have the 225/40ZR18 on the front. Even in the wet they do not pose any issue if you drive normally but when it's warm they stick to the road.
Best regards,

Tom.

[darkmark07]

Tom74TVR said:

Hi,


I am running the 255/35ZR18 at the back and they are by far the best tyres I have had om my T350 (first time toyo's, never had the R888).
I have the 225/40ZR18 on the front. Even in the wet they do not pose any issue if you drive normally but when it's warm they stick to the road.
Best regards,

Tom.

Hi Tom

Sounds promising - have you noticed any rubbing, especially from the fronts on full lock? What about clearance in the rear wheel arches?

Has the larger profile noticably affected the tramlining tendancies of the original fronts?

Cheers,

Mark

[darkmark07]

sidpinup said:

Hi, I looked at these for my Tam but I think you will get a bit of rubbing as the sizes don't match up exactly. After lots of deliberation I have gone for Goodyear F1 asymmetric to replace the T1-Rs and I have to say I am very impressed with the grip and cope with the 4.3 engine well.

Have never really got on with the F1s, albeit with the combination of Toyos up front.

If I don't go with the R1Rs, I'll probably switch to the T1S (T1R replacement) and stick with the Toyos which (for me at any rate) felt more together than the Goodyear F1s, but thanks for the reply

[sidpinup]

I think they have stopped doing the T1-S in 225/35 size for the fronts

[Tom74TVR]

darkmark07 said:

Hi Tom

Sounds promising - have you noticed any rubbing, especially from the fronts on full lock? What about clearance in the rear wheel arches?

Has the larger profile noticably affected the tramlining tendancies of the original fronts?

Cheers,

Mark

Hi Mark,

the fronts are ok and do not rub, even on full lock. The clearances in the rear wheel arches are ok but I do hit my left rear tyre from time to time. It only becomes a problem (not constantly) when I take one of my mates who is not a real featherweight. When I am in it alone, I never hit the tyre. I have standard shock absorbers.

And it still requires a bump in the road to hit the tyre. It was worse on my previous T350 but that was down to the fact that the car was not put straight on the chassis when it left the factory :-)

I have had my Toyos now for 7000km and they are looking very much alive.
I have to admit that they were really difficult to fit though...
Cheers,
Tom.



The fronts I had on before my Toyos where from goodyear, I believe, I do not have more tramlining tendancies now then before.

[Flyin Banana]

I have had toyo R1R's on the car for a while now and are great, seem to have as much grips as R888's but can handle a little water as well

i run 255/35/18 front and rear on the sagaris

highly recomended by me

Rob

[Hollowpockets]

I had R1R's on my noble, the rears de-laminated after 1000 miles, toyo not interested, binned them and got eagle f1 assymetricals on the road wheels. Great tyres!

[Graaf]

I had them on my first Tuscan and it was the first thing I changed on my "new" Tuscan :
I use 225x40 and 255x35 wich is the recommended size by the TVR specialist, due to the stiffer sides compared to (for example) the ts you can run them in a different size then standard.

[phazed]

Flyin Banana said:

I have had toyo R1R's on the car for a while now and are great, seem to have as much grips as R888's but can handle a little water as well

i run 255/35/18 front and rear on the sagaris

highly recomended by me

Rob

Those R1Rs were much better in the wet then my R888s, (which were half worn) in the wet at Combe, very impressed.

In the dry there didn't seem much in it!

255s on the front, no wonder you had better turn in......

[Sevenman]

sidpinup said:

I think they have stopped doing the T1-S in 225/35 size for the fronts

Back in April I fitted my Tamora with a set of the new T1-Sports. These do come in the desired sizes and have performed very well.

[LeeT350c]

I have been running these on my T350 since Feb 2011 and have done around 7500 miles on them so hopefully can offer an honest opinion.

I have 225/40ZR18 on the front and 255/35ZR18 on the rear (standard spiders), one thing tread pattern looks great!

No rubbing on full lock and as others have mentioned I sometimes get a slight arch rub on the rear passenger side with a heavy passenger in when cornering. Also sometimes a slight rub front left at speed if I go over a dip.

I have nitrons and eibach springs which along with the tyres transformed how the car handled. They are stunning in the dry and also hold their own in the wet.

After 7500 miles of 'spirited' and varied driving including a 1/4 mile session and a number of laps round Bruntingthorpe the rears still have just over 3mm left and the fronts around 5mm so also pleased with the wear.

Hope this helps.

Cheers. Lee.

[sidpinup]

Sevenman said:

sidpinup said:

I think they have stopped doing the T1-S in 225/35 size for the fronts

Back in April I fitted my Tamora with a set of the new T1-Sports. These do come in the desired sizes and have performed very well.

Sorry let me get my facts straight. Toyo did to a tyre call the T1-S (not sport) and these came on my Tam when new. They then replaced these with the current T1-R (almost the same tread pattern as the T1-S) but have recently stopped doing the front size in this tyre so an alternative as you correctly say is the T1 Sport but this has a different tread pattern, more conventional without the V shape in the middle. How do you rate the T1 Sport out of interest?

[darkmark07]

Thanks for the input guys - looks like it will be the R1Rs.

Any suggestions as to the best place to source? Camskill look to be about the best price at c. £760 for a set (235 fronts and 255 rears) - any other places to look?

[RedSpike66]

I've just been to Whhels In Motion at Chesham for geo setup, and I asked them about tyres. They quoted me some pretty competitive prices for Goodyear Assymetrics all round. Give them a call. They rate Goodyears, Toyos and Vredestein Ultracs for TVRs

[darkmark07]

Apologies for resurrecting my own thread, however I feel I should share my R1R experiences with you.

If you're contemplating this, stop messing about and do it. These tyres are truly EPIC.

They take a bit a warming up, but once you get them up to temperature they stick like the proverbial to a blanket. When approaching the limits of grip (so far) they seem to break in a stable and predictable fashion. Even the journey to work now makes me giggle like a small child.

In marginal conditions they seem no worse than any other tyre. Have not used them in heavy rain / standing water but I would expect that as long as you drive sensibly they would be ok.

Sizes in use are those recommended above. I have noticed very slight scrubbing at the front on very bumpy roads and the same at the rear (although no worse than the Goodyear Eagle Assys that they replaced at the back). Tram-lining seems no worse than before.

In short, do it - they are bloody marvellous!

[Templedog]

what he said........

[RedSpike66]

Thanks for that - just about to make the plunge for a full set of Track Day tyres for my spare Spiders...