2012 Sagaris ??? New for 65k ???
2012 Sagaris ??? New for 65k ???
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cantus

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925 posts

274 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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See Sagaris classifieds.

New tvr Sagaris (2012)
Fuel Type: Petrol Transmission: Manual The chance as arisen to acquire a new Sagaris in a colour and trim of your choice ,the car will be build from as many new parts as available and for parts that are not available we shall be using refurbished components from a Donner vehicle......!

So, are they using Cat B&A cars for parts ?


Jasper Gilder

2,166 posts

295 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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It's being done by John McCrae who runs Supercar Lifestyle. I've never been round his place but others who have say it's pretty good. Couldn't comment on parts sources - but they do race prepare sags I think. That will leave a lot of parts left over......

mccrae

315 posts

267 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Hi cantus

Our intentions are to build the car as new as possible obviously some bits just aren't available in this instance we shall either refurb parts or make new parts ,we have a damaged sag in stock for spares but will not be putting any damaged parts on the new car any second hand parts used will be fully reconditioned
This is a cerb build we are just completing we also built 2 sags in 2010 will left over parts they were fitted power 4.5 engines one went to Switzerland the jungle green one and the the other one is here I use it as a track car , it as ceramic breaks paddle clutch etc the 4.5 is running well ! , enjoy this cold spell ,john

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

mccrae

315 posts

267 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Hi again cantus just looked at your garage , very nice !!!

7 TVR

2,589 posts

190 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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mccrae said:
Hi again cantus just looked at your garage , very nice !!!
I think William has to have one of the best TVR garages i've ever been in wink

Graaf

169 posts

187 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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would be interesting to find out how the other Sagaris was imported (tax wise) into Swiss as with a 2012 registration it will kill me on the import tax (into Holland that is)

cantus

Original Poster:

925 posts

274 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Hallo John,
Well, that looks good. That Cerb is on a high standard condition. Very nice.
About the new Sags, did you receive any interest for it? Any orders maybe. Are you aloud to call it a TVR? Maybe not.But...At the time it did work for the TVR Trident. Many Tridents were build without the TVR badge and were badged with Trident Clipper and Trident Ventura.I see a similarity between the Sag and the Trident. Both coupe's and both very nice cars at the time they were produced. Good luck John. @Christian. Hey Christian; how's the Tusc? you like it ?

cantus

Original Poster:

925 posts

274 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Sagaris Ventura.......

mccrae

315 posts

267 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Hi cantus and good morning , regestering the car as a tvr Sagaris is no problem as all the new parts ie chassis shell etc are original from the factory I hav done this with previous ones and have a good relationship with dvla ,I've had lots of interest but no deposit yet j

TA14

14,023 posts

280 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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But when you read the details it appears to be the chance to have a re-built write off, not a new car.

Chris Type R

8,705 posts

271 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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TA14 said:
But when you read the details it appears to be the chance to have a re-built write off, not a new car.
I read it as being constructed from reindeer parts.

7 TVR

2,589 posts

190 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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cantus said:
Hallo John,
Well, that looks good. That Cerb is on a high standard condition. Very nice.
About the new Sags, did you receive any interest for it? Any orders maybe. Are you aloud to call it a TVR? Maybe not.But...At the time it did work for the TVR Trident. Many Tridents were build without the TVR badge and were badged with Trident Clipper and Trident Ventura.I see a similarity between the Sag and the Trident. Both coupe's and both very nice cars at the time they were produced. Good luck John. @Christian. Hey Christian; how's the Tusc? you like it ?
Love the Tuscancloud9 and have just picked up a very nice sag in the same{best}colour as yours!
I will be over to Blackpool on de Rijn in the new year so will give you guys a call and hopefully stop by for a beer or 2
We will all be @ Spa in Easter 31 March & 1 April if you fancy it? Staying @ the Radisson Palace.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

213 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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[quote=mccrae]Ie hav done this with previous ones and have a good relationship with dvla/[quote]
Will it avoid the Q plate?
Would VAT be chargable on the 65K?
And will it be registered as a 2012 Sagaris or as a kit car?

Just curious thats all smile

TA14

14,023 posts

280 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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TVR_owner said:
Will it avoid the Q plate?
Would VAT be chargable on the 65K?
And will it be registered as a 2012 Sagaris or as a kit car?
AIUI if the factory didn't register the chassis then it won't be a TVR unless it's a re-built write off/restoration etc.

TOV!E

2,016 posts

256 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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TA14 said:
But when you read the details it appears to be the chance to have a re-built write off, not a new car.
RUBBISH, read it again.............

TA14

14,023 posts

280 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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TOV!E said:
TA14 said:
But when you read the details it appears to be the chance to have a re-built write off, not a new car.
RUBBISH, read it again.............
OK, enlighten me.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

213 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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TA14 said:
AIUI if the factory didn't register the chassis then it won't be a TVR unless it's a re-built write off/restoration etc.
So a kit and registered on a Q unless VAT paid or?

andygtt

8,345 posts

286 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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TVR_owner said:
TA14 said:
AIUI if the factory didn't register the chassis then it won't be a TVR unless it's a re-built write off/restoration etc.
So a kit and registered on a Q unless VAT paid or?
not sure whats suggested here... but the Q plate has no bearing on VAT.

VAT isnt usually payable on kit cars as its paid on purchase of the parts themselves... a company building a kit would claim VAT back on the parts and charge vat back on it so in practice VAT is only extra on the labour.

A Q plate is only assigned to a car were the source of the parts is not able to be established... if all new (ie not used in a full car previously) parts are used with the exception of one major component (not the chassis).... so either the engine or box can be a reconditioned item as long as the ret is all new and still get a new plate.

Having built a kit, it was registered under the name of the company providing the kit parts i.e. an Ultima.... so if the chassis etc are all originaly from TVR then I cant see why it wont be registered as a TVR?
Also a 'KIT' has no difference in registration to a normal car other than the 'kits' name.... so it will just be a newer TVR.

I know someone who built a Noble M12 from parts supplied by the factory... it was no different in registration to a normal car.... also pretty sure TVR's were registered in same was as kits cars are i.e. SVA... or were they type approved and crash tested etc etc?

mccrae

315 posts

267 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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The chassis was bought via multi part and a genuine chassis, regestering the car with dvla is no problem as all major components are new there will be no q plates j

mccrae

315 posts

267 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Thanks andygtt you are perfectly correct you can build any car as long as you use genuine parts you can sva the vehicle and it will be correctly as the car should be this car will be regestered as a tvr sagaris speed 6