HELP, in petrol station, cant get in car!

[SergSC]

Oh **** title says it all really. Stopped for petrol, boot didnt open, so tried the doors but now wont open. The interior door buttons flash when I push the button....
Earlier today the passenger window stopped workin, stuck in the top position.

Waiting for AA but if anyone can help it would be much appreciated.

[SergSC]

Btw this a supposedly brand new battery.

[Overseas]

YHM

[SergSC]

Seems the entry method on a sagaris or tuscan is different to a tam, much appreciated if someone would contact me with tam instructions.

[Snakes]

Are you sorted or do you need help still?

[Snakes]

YHM

[shep1001]

I have sent you an email how to get in. I suspect the small button on the dash where the window/door buttons are (the one that seemingly dose nothing) is stuck in or you pressed it by accident when you got out and did not lock the car. This is the boot/door button disable for when you leave the roof down. As its name suggests it disables the exterior access buttons and is 're-set' when you lock/unlock the car on the fob

If it is stuck you need to remove the radio to access the screws to remove the surround that houses the buttons to free it off.


You only do it once but its part of the initiation to TVR ownership!!

[SergSC]

Thanks very much guys for helping.
Overseas I think you gave correct instructions but I misundertood you when we spoke... but the AA man knew what to do, he has a manual on how to break into any car. Will definitely do the mod you suggested.

To get into the front, a light bulb went on as I stood by the car. The AA manual suggested something I thought would lead to damage to the rear screen, my way worked a treat with an improvised tool.

The passenger window still doesnt go down or the boot unlock, but the drivers door lock started working. The passenger door seems hesitant to trigger the lock. Any ideas? moisture in leccy bits somewhere?
Its not a battery charge problem or an alarm/fob issue. AA man said it wasnt a fuse.
Hopefully I can get into the car tomorrow morning, at least I have a full tank now and know how to get in.

Thanks!
S

[shep1001]

SergSC said:

Thanks very much guys for helping.
Overseas I think you gave correct instructions but I misundertood you when we spoke... but the AA man knew what to do, he has a manual on how to break into any car. Will definitely do the mod you suggested.

To get into the front, a light bulb went on as I stood by the car. The AA manual suggested something I thought would lead to damage to the rear screen, my way worked a treat with an improvised tool.

The passenger window still doesnt go down or the boot unlock, but the drivers door lock started working. The passenger door seems hesitant to trigger the lock. Any ideas? moisture in leccy bits somewhere?
Its not a battery charge problem or an alarm/fob issue. AA man said it wasnt a fuse.
Hopefully I can get into the car tomorrow morning, at least I have a full tank now and know how to get in.

Thanks!
S

Have a look in the PS footwell right in the bottom corner behind the carpet panel. The large metal box is the ECU for the PS door & boot (it should have a sticker on it). If you unplug and re-connect the ECU in the footwell it should fire the boot solenoid and open it

The window not dropping could be the micro switch in the door latch is u/s or has moved. Check this by opening the door with the engine running, you should get the 'error code 15 LHS door open'. If the window won't move at all it may be sticky buttons

Edited by shep1001 on Tuesday 26th March 21:39

[SergSC]

shep1001 said:

I have sent you an email how to get in. I suspect the small button on the dash where the window/door buttons are (the one that seemingly dose nothing) is stuck in or you pressed it by accident when you got out and did not lock the car. This is the boot/door button disable for when you leave the roof down. As its name suggests it disables the exterior access buttons and is 're-set' when you lock/unlock the car on the fob

If it is stuck you need to remove the radio to access the screws to remove the surround that houses the buttons to free it off.


You only do it once but its part of the initiation to TVR ownership!!

Thanks for the tip I will investigate tomorrow.

This is quite funny because the first time I went to fuel my lotus elise I also ended up stuck in a petrol station... fuel filler cap wouldnt lock, then key became permanently attached to lock, then tried to force the key out, which led to the barrel with key coming unstuck from the cap, still attached to key, then station guy helped to pull it out because my hand had recently broken, he succeded and handed the key and barrel back, the barrel desintegrated in my hand.... anyway Lotus might as well fitted a fake key hole because any flat head screw driver would make short work of it.

[SergSC]

shep1001 said:

Have a look in the PS footwell right in the bottom corner behind the carpet panel. The large metal box is the ECU for the PS door & boot (it should have a sticker on it). If you unplug and re-connect the ECU in the footwell it should fire the boot solenoid and open it

The window not dropping could be the micro switch in the door latch is u/s or has moved. Check this by opening the door with the engine running, you should get the 'error code 15 LHS door open'. If the window won't move at all it may be sticky buttons

Edited by shep1001 on Tuesday 26th March 21:39

Thanks so much again that is fantastically helpful

[Overseas]

Cool, glad to hear you are sorted in the interim.

[SergSC]

Same again this morning.
Last night the car was locking and unlocking when I left it, suggesting its not the interior central lock button that is stuck. Anyway, I got in.

I looked in the PS footwell for the door ecu but I couldn't remember the exact instructions so was looking in the wrong place. I unplugged a connector from the pcb with large capacitors and it turned off the heater, then I unplugged another plug and the engine switched off... maybe an anti theft mod.
Phone didn't have charge so I couldn't check the forum for the correct location of the door ecu. I will into that again later because the boot is again inaccessible through normal means.

Then the drivers door would not physically lock, because the pull handle I used to open it was not springing back in, some pulling and pushing and it works again.
The door lock mechanism seems to be in serious need of a clean and grease. I take it I just unscrew the chrome lock surround and get busy with cleaning and greasing?

[VARLEYHYD]

SergSC said:

The door lock mechanism seems to be in serious need of a clean and grease. I take it I just unscrew the chrome lock surround and get busy with cleaning and greasing?

No, the chrome is just a cover with tiny csk machine screws that rust up.

Do it from behind in the first instance, by removing the trim over the seat belt mechanism, much easier that way

G

Edited by VARLEYHYD on Wednesday 27th March 13:56

[SergSC]

So this evening I found the door ecu unit in the footwell and unplugged and plugged it back in but no change.
I can unlock the car from inside using the buttons but not from the outside. I guess this points to the interior central locking button being stuck as mentioned previously.

Booked in to hhc for health check/fixes but thats in a couple of weeks, so I will take out radio to get at the button as soon as possible.

Any additional pointers would be very appreciated.

[shep1001]

SergSC said:

So this evening I found the door ecu unit in the footwell and unplugged and plugged it back in but no change.
I can unlock the car from inside using the buttons but not from the outside. I guess this points to the interior central locking button being stuck as mentioned previously.

Booked in to hhc for health check/fixes but thats in a couple of weeks, so I will take out radio to get at the button as soon as possible.

Any additional pointers would be very appreciated.

Worth Checking the fuse for the boot solenoid. It's the same one for the cig lighter so if the cig lighter socket is not working that's why the boot is not opening. Still sounds like the lock button to me but not worth ignoring the easy to test things first

[SergSC]

Hello,
So this morning I set out to fix my car, I was 90% sure it was a stuck central locking button, I got in the car to ponder what I was going to do, but then I opened the door to get out and on the floor/dirt in front of me was a yellow (20) fuse. I thought bingo, obviously I'd kicked one off, stuck to my shoe and deposited it precisely where my foot lands when I get out of the car... so queue the upside down in footwell malarkey... but no there aren't any blown or missing fuses! it's really just a bleeding random fuse on the floor, un-blown, wtf!!!

Anyway, after all this fiddling with fuses, reseating them etc, I try to open the boot with the button again, and this time it opens... hmmm... after scratching my head for a bit it turns out its because both doors were open. Central locking turns off (and gives you access to boot) if both front doors are unlocked, also the exterior door buttons become active. As soon as one door shuts the stuck central lock button disables the door and boot buttons.

So... I got to work based on this thread: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

After some minor blood spillage I finally get the B*****D bolts orf, with needle nose pliers, because these B*****D bolts are the most obscure sized things you could ever hope to never come across, with added nyloc. Definitely looks a pretty ridiculous feat of over engineering.

Anyway I take the thing apart and test the button, it clicks
The button has some padding but I fiddle the washer spacers and lube the hole to get it clicking again.

Awesome, my first fix of any significance

Pretty stupid really, I really ought to have assumed that button was supposed to click like the others.

Also noticed there is a lot of fiber glass dust/debris in there, think I will hoover that up and maybe spray plastidip.





After all that I thought she needed a good spanking, so off to Duke's Pass we went.



More on the other thread.

Edited by SergSC on Friday 29th March 20:11