Your thoughts on value
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Would like to see what you think on the potential value of a genuine low mileage 2002 Tamora. 19000 miles.
Recent quality respray in Rolex Blue, New full leather interior by D&C recently rebuilt engine (3.6) with RND stage 2 head, modified oilways, bigger valves stage 2 cams. new clutch etc. A beautiful looking car but no pics yet.
Clearly a nice example. but the car was registered as a Cat C in 2002. It has been properly repaired (10 years ago) and had no chassis damage.
I realise some of you wouldn't touch a CAT car, whereas others wouldn't be put off by it. If you are one of those nay-sayers, please dont respond with a silly low figure. I just would like feedback on what you would expect to see this car advertised for?
Cheers
Recent quality respray in Rolex Blue, New full leather interior by D&C recently rebuilt engine (3.6) with RND stage 2 head, modified oilways, bigger valves stage 2 cams. new clutch etc. A beautiful looking car but no pics yet.
Clearly a nice example. but the car was registered as a Cat C in 2002. It has been properly repaired (10 years ago) and had no chassis damage.
I realise some of you wouldn't touch a CAT car, whereas others wouldn't be put off by it. If you are one of those nay-sayers, please dont respond with a silly low figure. I just would like feedback on what you would expect to see this car advertised for?
Cheers
Always a hard one. People that don't understand the mechanicals of cars will say it's worthless, or say the market dictates it's worthless.
If there was no chassis damage, or it's been repaired good as new, then there is no problem and it wouldn't put me off. I believe if the car is well looked after and has been repaired well, there's every chance it's a better proposition than an average factory finished car.
I wouldn't judge prices on the TVR Dean car, his bad reputation on here means he struggles to sell anything and had to keep dropping the price. I've seen 2 Cat D T350's sell for 15-16,000, not seen any damaged Tams myself.
You could look at getting the CATegorisation removed by an inspection?
What would the car be worth without a damage history?
If there was no chassis damage, or it's been repaired good as new, then there is no problem and it wouldn't put me off. I believe if the car is well looked after and has been repaired well, there's every chance it's a better proposition than an average factory finished car.
I wouldn't judge prices on the TVR Dean car, his bad reputation on here means he struggles to sell anything and had to keep dropping the price. I've seen 2 Cat D T350's sell for 15-16,000, not seen any damaged Tams myself.
You could look at getting the CATegorisation removed by an inspection?
What would the car be worth without a damage history?
Who did the rebuild? Cat C brings price down but if its a full engine rebuild by a reputable company I'd say add couple of grand value and probably a grand for retrim and same for a respray. I'd say 14k as list price. Puts its up against other cars that aren't cat C but haven't had all the work done you've listed. I think you'd be lucky to get more than 15k for salvage repaired car.
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
thanks for the opinions. I forgot to mention the engine bay is well detailed. The rebuild was done by Batty and RND engineering did the head work. My thoughts are with the mileage and condition / full leather re-trim and re-spray it would be up there with the top Tams (excluding the 4.3/4.5 convesions. Less whatever would be taken off for the Cat C?
I hadnt thought about having the classification removed...How does that work?
I hadnt thought about having the classification removed...How does that work?
GG33 said:
thanks for the opinions. I forgot to mention the engine bay is well detailed. The rebuild was done by Batty and RND engineering did the head work. My thoughts are with the mileage and condition / full leather re-trim and re-spray it would be up there with the top Tams (excluding the 4.3/4.5 convesions. Less whatever would be taken off for the Cat C?
I hadnt thought about having the classification removed...How does that work?
Paperwork technicality - it will always have a history of damage.I hadnt thought about having the classification removed...How does that work?
Value 20 to 35% less than without damage depending on the view of the buyer/seller.
You bought your car from tvr dean, how much did you pay for it?? and how much do you think its worth now??
ChrisPap said:
Always a hard one. People that don't understand the mechanicals of cars will say it's worthless, or say the market dictates it's worthless.
If there was no chassis damage, or it's been repaired good as new, then there is no problem and it wouldn't put me off. I believe if the car is well looked after and has been repaired well, there's every chance it's a better proposition than an average factory finished car.
I wouldn't judge prices on the TVR Dean car, his bad reputation on here means he struggles to sell anything and had to keep dropping the price. I've seen 2 Cat D T350's sell for 15-16,000, not seen any damaged Tams myself.
You could look at getting the CATegorisation removed by an inspection?
What would the car be worth without a damage history?
If there was no chassis damage, or it's been repaired good as new, then there is no problem and it wouldn't put me off. I believe if the car is well looked after and has been repaired well, there's every chance it's a better proposition than an average factory finished car.
I wouldn't judge prices on the TVR Dean car, his bad reputation on here means he struggles to sell anything and had to keep dropping the price. I've seen 2 Cat D T350's sell for 15-16,000, not seen any damaged Tams myself.
You could look at getting the CATegorisation removed by an inspection?
What would the car be worth without a damage history?
HULLCHRIS said:
You bought your car from tvr dean, how much did you pay for it?? and how much do you think its worth now??
Not exactly applicable. I bought my car with fibreglass damage needing repair and a respray, not as a roadworthy car, although otherwise it was in outstanding condition.It would cost me 25-30k to replicate the project depending on availability of a base car, so I wouldn't sell it for less than that, but I didn't build it with resale in mind, and I'm sure someone would come along and tell me that the car would never drive the same again since the fibreglass got dented, that I've ruined a Tam, and they wouldn't give me toffee for it etc.
I did think about asking a price on the forums for insurance valuation but I anticipated that the stupid answers would only infuriate me!
I went to see a cat car a year ago. I only considered it because there were many photographs of the accident damage. Unfortunaly the interior was very tatty.
Basically I think people are more likely to consider it, as in take steps to at least view it, if they are sure of just how light or heavy the damage was. We know these things get easily Cat'ed for only cosmetic reasons, but it could just as easily have had wheels hanging off and be in the same category.
Basically I think people are more likely to consider it, as in take steps to at least view it, if they are sure of just how light or heavy the damage was. We know these things get easily Cat'ed for only cosmetic reasons, but it could just as easily have had wheels hanging off and be in the same category.
The problem is the percentage of people that would buy a Cat C/D car...
A number of buyers are unbelievably anal about mileage on a fantastic condition, regularly driven, regularly maintained, no expense spared TVR, so the fact that so few people would buy a Cat C/D car must affect it's value, whether it's had chassis damage or just fibreglass damage.
Those that are happy to buy a Cat C/D car will be much more interested in a well repaired, well cared for, and improved car like yours though, so making it one of the easier ones to sell in this 'category'
A number of buyers are unbelievably anal about mileage on a fantastic condition, regularly driven, regularly maintained, no expense spared TVR, so the fact that so few people would buy a Cat C/D car must affect it's value, whether it's had chassis damage or just fibreglass damage.
Those that are happy to buy a Cat C/D car will be much more interested in a well repaired, well cared for, and improved car like yours though, so making it one of the easier ones to sell in this 'category'
RedSpike66 said:
A number of buyers are unbelievably anal about mileage on a fantastic condition, regularly driven, regularly maintained, no expense spared TVR,
There are so many
ChrisPap said:
Not exactly applicable. I bought my car with fibreglass damage needing repair and a respray, not as a roadworthy car, although otherwise it was in outstanding condition.
It would cost me 25-30k to replicate the project depending on availability of a base car, so I wouldn't sell it for less than that, but I didn't build it with resale in mind, and I'm sure someone would come along and tell me that the car would never drive the same again since the fibreglass got dented, that I've ruined a Tam, and they wouldn't give me toffee for it etc.
I did think about asking a price on the forums for insurance valuation but I anticipated that the stupid answers would only infuriate me!
Far from it Chris, I think you car looks great and you have saved another TVR, a double win in my book, can't help think its the car that the Griffith should have evolved into.It would cost me 25-30k to replicate the project depending on availability of a base car, so I wouldn't sell it for less than that, but I didn't build it with resale in mind, and I'm sure someone would come along and tell me that the car would never drive the same again since the fibreglass got dented, that I've ruined a Tam, and they wouldn't give me toffee for it etc.
I did think about asking a price on the forums for insurance valuation but I anticipated that the stupid answers would only infuriate me!
Also Cat C or D have been applied to some cars with really light damage, anyway if its repaired correctly the I don't see a problem and it would not put me off. Its not like a full steel bodied car that's been pulled back into shape, that's never to be as strong as before accident....
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