tamora with 225/40-18, any problems ?

tamora with 225/40-18, any problems ?

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sascha

Original Poster:

270 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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hi gentlemen,

i want to use semi-slicks and it's hard to find 225/35-18 so i decide to buy 225/40, this means the tam will be about 1cm higher at the front.

as i have new nitrons "on the table" but they are not installed yet, how/what should i do to compensate the motorboat-look ?

as rear tyres should i use what size ?

are 255/35-18 driveable (problems?) or should i stay at 235/40-18 ?

i thank you very much for helping me ! beer

Edited by sascha on Friday 8th November 13:33

fredd1e

783 posts

234 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Unfortunately running 225/40x18 on the front is a suck and see problem, not all cars have the necessary clearance (at the front of the wheel well) to clear the tyre at full lock. Also lowering to cope with the increased height of the tyre will probably result in the upper wheel well coming into contact with the tyre on full compression. Rear wise I'd stick with 255/35x18 over the 235/40x18 (which was the factory oem size)
My T350 doesn't like the taller front tyre due to clearance problems (not too dissimilar to the tam in the wheel box area).

sascha

Original Poster:

270 posts

263 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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thank you for explaining me the problem !

SergSC

508 posts

176 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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but here is the problem with 225/35/18

oponeu.com has:
Zero tyres at that size, not even ditch finders.

Camskill has:
Continental Sport Contact 5
Falken FK453

Blackcircles has:
Toyo Proxes T1-Sport
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric
Falken FK-453
Continental Sport Contact 5
Bridgestone Potenza S001
Kumho KU39

If I had to have 225/35/18 and wanted same brand and compound all round, what would be the best choice out of that selection?
AFAIK none of these are in what is commonly considered to be the "best" tyre group for general road use, which as far as I can gather are:

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2
Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas
Yokohama AD08s

Like the OP I'm struggling to come to a decision.

My Tam is a 2004, does anyone know if the ability to take 225/40/18 is year related? My ride is raised and I'm running stiff Nitron's. I'm rating my chances as pretty good on the 225/40/18 gamble, no?

Sevenman

756 posts

206 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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I am surprised you don't include the Contental Tyres in your list of good tyres for general road use, unless there is some specific reason they don't work well with TVRs?

Perfectly happy with my Toyo T1-Sports. Although lots of people seemed to like the T1-R, plenty of people seem to dissaprove of them on the forum and consider Toyo 2nd rate. Only a little track use so far, but they are doing fine.

This collation of reviews rates the Continental Tyres highly. Having seen some of the work Continental put into their tyre technology, I would be tempted to go with them next time I need new tyres.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2013-European...

SergSC

508 posts

176 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Only reason being I havent come across any reviews for contis by TVR guys.

It got a good score there.
The user reviews on tyrereviews.com for conti 5's are very mixed... not just contis though... even the f1 assy 2 gets lots of bad press about overly soft side walls. A review by a tuscan2 user saying they ruined the handling. Different results based on load rating?

A bit of a nightmare going through the reviews, with lots of useless comparisons with ditch finders.

The vredestein ultrac vorti however are getting rock solid user reviews, not a single complaint!

Edited by SergSC on Sunday 10th November 23:49

jev

388 posts

274 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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SergSC said:
My Tam is a 2004, does anyone know if the ability to take 225/40/18 is year related?
No I think its more likely day of the week related. My tyre fitter's view in that 225/40/18 will fit on the offside but not the nearside. I fear this may affect handling.

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

245 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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jev said:
My tyre fitter's view in that 225/40/18 will fit on the offside but not the nearside.
So are you going to enlighten us as to Why??

Buzz

M50GRF

136 posts

196 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Would fitting wheel spacers like the ones fitted to the Tuscan help?

jev

388 posts

274 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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BuzzBillsberry said:
So are you going to enlighten us as to Why??
Sorry, I wasn't being clear - should have added "on my car". Trying to make the point that they are all different hand built cars.


SergSC

508 posts

176 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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I had a good look around my wheelwell today... unless I'm missing something stupidly obvious I appear to have ample space at full lock and I'm guessing at droop too. My ride height is raised though and on stiff (too stiff) nitrons.
I think I have decided to try my luck with the vred vortis, and will report back once I do.

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

245 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Are you going to try 225/40x18?

Buzz

SergSC

508 posts

176 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Yep just going for it, if it doesnt work... well, I'll be sorry.

BuzzBillsberry

1,306 posts

245 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Be interesting to see the result as I'm at too options at the mo.

1) to move to 19" similar to the sag/power(team dynamics) but will mean open out the rear arches by an inch and have already made the inserts for the rears. For the fronts I need to borrow 19" for the fronts see where the issues will be.

2) buy 18" version of the above but 1" wider on rears...with inner arch mods as above. Front wise run as u with 225/40 and adapt arches and re composite that area where it possibly rubs. I've heard a few people who have experience rubbing on the front middle of the arch and also on the head light cover in wheel arches(Tamora) but that's usually because it's been off and someone's not fitted it back on the right way up!

I suppose there there's a 3rd option that says sod it just fit the normal size rears and do what u have and run 225/40 either toyo R1R or 888sbiggrin

Buzz


sascha

Original Poster:

270 posts

263 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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sorry for delay.

no problems with 225/40-18 (R-S3) at all, the nitrons have been adjusted to the right high ..



gacksen

680 posts

157 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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sascha said:
sorry for delay.

no problems with 225/40-18 (R-S3) at all, the nitrons have been adjusted to the right high ..


hopefully there wont be any rain biggrin

QBee

21,656 posts

158 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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One teensy comment - one manufacturer's 225/40 18 may well not be the same size as another's.

For example, I found that my Federal 595 RS-R's in 215/45 17 (on a Chim, sorry) are 230mm wide measuring across the tread. Exactly the same as my Bridgestone 235/45 17s.

So what I am saying is you need to know a little more about a tyre before either assuming it won't fit, assuming it will fit, or assuming it is "too narrow" or "too wide" for the car. as a consequence of the Federals being wider in reality than advertised, and wider with a deeper sidewall, my car runs very nicely on tyres marked 215 all around.

sascha

Original Poster:

270 posts

263 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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QBee said:
One teensy comment - one manufacturer's 225/40 18 may well not be the same size as another's.

For example, I found that my Federal 595 RS-R's in 215/45 17 (on a Chim, sorry) are 230mm wide measuring across the tread. Exactly the same as my Bridgestone 235/45 17s.

So what I am saying is you need to know a little more about a tyre before either assuming it won't fit, assuming it will fit, or assuming it is "too narrow" or "too wide" for the car. as a consequence of the Federals being wider in reality than advertised, and wider with a deeper sidewall, my car runs very nicely on tyres marked 215 all around.
.. exactly, therefore i took the hankook, these seems to be the smallest in compairing sizes. at the rear i use "serial" size 235/40-18, also perfect.

maybe i will try michelin pilot sport cup's and toyo's 888 also same sized ..

@gacksen: 90km/h (full concentrated) in heavy rain was the maximum (on highway)

QBee

21,656 posts

158 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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Good, glad you got it sorted - I was just making the comment for all reading the thread. Toyo 888s are well know for being square shouldered, so if anything will catch they will.

Fusion1

376 posts

224 months

Saturday 14th June 2014
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Just put son vredstein 235 x 40 on the front of my t350 and its tight, will changing them for 225 x 40 make any difference. Are original bilstine shocks adjustable for ride hight as could do with about 1cm. I had 255 x 35 on the front before and although they rubbed a little there was more clearance.
Thanks