Tamora to T350
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a1butch

Original Poster:

274 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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Has anybody moved and regretted it?
I don't have the top off enough and with every TVR meet I seem to spend more time drooling over the T350s.
Hmm.


ChazUwe

261 posts

255 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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Go for the Targa then you still get to have some roof off action if you fancy it!

chris watton

22,545 posts

280 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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I cannot imagine there'd be much difference when sat behind the steering wheel, as both are more or less identical from the seats forward. (From inside)

Perhaps (and arguably) nicer to look at in the garage/on the drive...

Know what you mean, though, it seems that every weekend, after a nice and sunny Monday to Friday, it pisses down!

a1butch

Original Poster:

274 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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T350T is my very thought.
Gets the thumbs up from the Mrs too which is great as I almost buckled under the pressure to sell earlier this year to help finance our house move.
Now to find a buyer for mine!

anonymous-user

74 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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Try and get an extended drive. All things being equal, the T350 will feel firmer and quite twitchy. It may be too nervous for you?

a1butch

Original Poster:

274 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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I did drive one T350 last year with Nitrons and to be honest I couldn't tell a huge difference between the two. Quite a few of the Tamoras I drove were fitted with the original factory dampers that seemed softer from memory. I guess the convertibles should flex more anyway given the structural differences.
My Tam has Nitrons and Mat Smith is currently looking at the set-up as i've mentioned the ride is already very firm for my liking. Coming from a 997 the PASM was a very nice option to have!

ShiDevil

2,293 posts

194 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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TVRMs said:
Try and get an extended drive. All things being equal, the T350 will feel firmer and quite twitchy. It may be too nervous for you?
Im going to disagree. I can't see how you suggest it's twitchier than a Tamora. Get the car setup properly it's absolutely fantastic to drive as would a Tamora be, albeit the obvious rigidity benefits of the solid body are going to be an advantage. I've driven poorly setup t350's and properly and they are night and day. Simple focus on setup.

Just get a T350 they are epic smile

Edited by ShiDevil on Monday 22 June 19:28

anonymous-user

74 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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ShiDevil said:
TVRMs said:
Try and get an extended drive. All things being equal, the T350 will feel firmer and quite twitchy. It may be too nervous for you?
Im going to disagree. I can't see how you suggest it's twitchier than a Tamora. Get the car setup properly it's absolutely fantastic to drive as would a Tamora be, albeit the obvious rigidity benefits of the solid body are going to be an advantage. I've driven poorly setup t350's and properly and they are night and day. Simple focus on setup.

Just get a T350 they are epic smile

Edited by ShiDevil on Monday 22 June 19:28
You know best I guess. Do me a favour though, read your post and see why you've joined the ranks of those that post bks on here.

Zippee

13,889 posts

254 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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TVRMs said:
ShiDevil said:
TVRMs said:
Try and get an extended drive. All things being equal, the T350 will feel firmer and quite twitchy. It may be too nervous for you?
Im going to disagree. I can't see how you suggest it's twitchier than a Tamora. Get the car setup properly it's absolutely fantastic to drive as would a Tamora be, albeit the obvious rigidity benefits of the solid body are going to be an advantage. I've driven poorly setup t350's and properly and they are night and day. Simple focus on setup.

Just get a T350 they are epic smile

Edited by ShiDevil on Monday 22 June 19:28
You know best I guess. Do me a favour though, read your post and see why you've joined the ranks of those that post bks on here.
No need to be quite so rude there as Steve was only offering an opinion! The 2 cars share the same chassis and suspension set up and barr the slight extra rigidity form the hard top (Very slight as it's the chassis that provides the bulk of it) then the 2 cars pretty much handle identically. You will get slight nuances that are car specific depending on the geo set up and suspension choice on each individual car but it will mostly come down to preference on looks alone.

ShiDevil

2,293 posts

194 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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Zippee said:
No need to be quite so rude there as Steve was only offering an opinion! The 2 cars share the same chassis and suspension set up and barr the slight extra rigidity form the hard top (Very slight as it's the chassis that provides the bulk of it) then the 2 cars pretty much handle identically. You will get slight nuances that are car specific depending on the geo set up and suspension choice on each individual car but it will mostly come down to preference on looks alone.
Thanks Tony, you are my hero, await your abuse! The immediate resorting to insults is pretty lame. Probably the result of owning every TVR, such a stressful existence frown Anyway, Tony your spot on with your comments smile On a separate note had a chat with S&D today, god they are mega enthusiastic about paint, your cars in good hands mate, can't wait to see it smile

portzi

2,325 posts

195 months

Monday 22nd June 2015
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ShiDevil said:
Zippee said:
No need to be quite so rude there as Steve was only offering an opinion! The 2 cars share the same chassis and suspension set up and barr the slight extra rigidity form the hard top (Very slight as it's the chassis that provides the bulk of it) then the 2 cars pretty much handle identically. You will get slight nuances that are car specific depending on the geo set up and suspension choice on each individual car but it will mostly come down to preference on looks alone.
Thanks Tony, you are my hero, await your abuse! The immediate resorting to insults is pretty lame. Probably the result of owning every TVR, such a stressful existence frown Anyway, Tony your spot on with your comments smile On a separate note had a chat with S&D today, god they are mega enthusiastic about paint, your cars in good hands mate, can't wait to see it smile
Its mad to think that all the S&D guys have done is paint TVR's and they are still as enthusiastic as when they were working in the Original Factory!! as you say Steve Tonys car will be pampered smile.

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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ShiDevil said:
Zippee said:
No need to be quite so rude there as Steve was only offering an opinion! The 2 cars share the same chassis and suspension set up and barr the slight extra rigidity form the hard top (Very slight as it's the chassis that provides the bulk of it) then the 2 cars pretty much handle identically. You will get slight nuances that are car specific depending on the geo set up and suspension choice on each individual car but it will mostly come down to preference on looks alone.
Thanks Tony, you are my hero, await your abuse! The immediate resorting to insults is pretty lame. Probably the result of owning every TVR, such a stressful existence frown Anyway, Tony your spot on with your comments smile On a separate note had a chat with S&D today, god they are mega enthusiastic about paint, your cars in good hands mate, can't wait to see it smile
You and your friend are both wrong in your assumptions regarding why the T350 handles less well and both go some way to explain why it is that way. Relative stiffeness of the body, chassis and cage.

Didn't think I was being rude or abusive, just stating facts.

Half decent attempt at sarcasm though, well done smile

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 23 June 05:37

ShiDevil

2,293 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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To confirm, my view is the T350 is in no way twitchier than a Tamora. In fact I'll go further and suggest it handles better by the pure fact that with everything else being equal its other advantage is the stiffer body brought about by not being a soft top. I'm genuinely interested to find out how you think that's not the case.

Now try and respond nicely smile

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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ShiDevil said:
To confirm, my view is the T350 is in no way twitchier than a Tamora. In fact I'll go further and suggest it handles better by the pure fact that with everything else being equal its other advantage is the stiffer body brought about by not being a soft top. I'm genuinely interested to find out how you think that's not the case.

Now try and respond nicely smile
nicemodeon smile

Body is not a stressed part and therefore contributes very little. The cage does add stiffness however, and it's that stiffness that makes the car less complaint and more.... twitchier.

Drove back to back T350c and Tamora for 2 years road and track. Both factory set-up (properly done, both similar mileage both cars standard in regard to suspension, wheels, tyres and un-sprung weight.

Noticeable difference.

T Car order of ability out of the box below (IMO)and not having a pop at your cars (honest...)

Tamora
Sagaris
T350
Tuscan (gets better from Mk 1 to 2.1/2 but still not as good as the others in the T family due to limited suspension travel)

Get rid of the under steer in the slower steering Sagaris and it moves to the top of that order. Castor and camber changes will sort the Sag, cheap mods.


billynobrakes

2,675 posts

285 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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TVRMs said:
nicemodeon smile

Body is not a stressed part and therefore contributes very little. The cage does add stiffness however, and it's that stiffness that makes the car less complaint and more.... twitchier.

Drove back to back T350c and Tamora for 2 years road and track. Both factory set-up (properly done, both similar mileage both cars standard in regard to suspension, wheels, tyres and un-sprung weight.

Noticeable difference.

T Car order of ability out of the box below (IMO)and not having a pop at your cars (honest...)

Tamora
Sagaris
T350
Tuscan (gets better from Mk 1 to 2.1/2 but still not as good as the others in the T family due to limited suspension travel)

Get rid of the under steer in the slower steering Sagaris and it moves to the top of that order. Castor and camber changes will sort the Sag, cheap mods.
you forgot the most important factor, the "nut behind the wheel" smile

Walford

2,259 posts

186 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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TVRMs said:
nicemodeon smile


Tamora
Sagaris
T350
Tuscan still not as good as the others in the T family due to limited suspension travel)
So do the other cars have a higher ride height
,

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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Walford said:
So do the other cars have a higher ride height
,
The others don't ride around on their bumpstops.

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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billynobrakes said:
TVRMs said:
nicemodeon smile

Body is not a stressed part and therefore contributes very little. The cage does add stiffness however, and it's that stiffness that makes the car less complaint and more.... twitchier.

Drove back to back T350c and Tamora for 2 years road and track. Both factory set-up (properly done, both similar mileage both cars standard in regard to suspension, wheels, tyres and un-sprung weight.

Noticeable difference.

T Car order of ability out of the box below (IMO)and not having a pop at your cars (honest...)

Tamora
Sagaris
T350
Tuscan (gets better from Mk 1 to 2.1/2 but still not as good as the others in the T family due to limited suspension travel)

Get rid of the under steer in the slower steering Sagaris and it moves to the top of that order. Castor and camber changes will sort the Sag, cheap mods.
you forgot the most important factor, the "nut behind the wheel" smile
If the nut can't tell, well any T car will do... wink

Zippee

13,889 posts

254 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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portzi said:
ShiDevil said:
Zippee said:
No need to be quite so rude there as Steve was only offering an opinion! The 2 cars share the same chassis and suspension set up and barr the slight extra rigidity form the hard top (Very slight as it's the chassis that provides the bulk of it) then the 2 cars pretty much handle identically. You will get slight nuances that are car specific depending on the geo set up and suspension choice on each individual car but it will mostly come down to preference on looks alone.
Thanks Tony, you are my hero, await your abuse! The immediate resorting to insults is pretty lame. Probably the result of owning every TVR, such a stressful existence frown Anyway, Tony your spot on with your comments smile On a separate note had a chat with S&D today, god they are mega enthusiastic about paint, your cars in good hands mate, can't wait to see it smile
Its mad to think that all the S&D guys have done is paint TVR's and they are still as enthusiastic as when they were working in the Original Factory!! as you say Steve Tonys car will be pampered smile.
Thanks guys - I can't wait to get her back smile
And lets face it, it can't be any worse than the job done by the last set of cowboys!

chris watton

22,545 posts

280 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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Zippee said:
Thanks guys - I can't wait to get her back smile
And lets face it, it can't be any worse than the job done by the last set of cowboys!
There do seem to be quite a few of them out there, all too eager to tell us how great they are and relieve you of a wad of cash - only to be presented with bitter disappointment...

Will be great to see the results!


Edited by chris watton on Tuesday 23 June 19:15