T350C and Tamora resale prices
Discussion
jodypress said:
Reckon we are looking at Tams taking over from Griffs as the collectors car soon - discuss.
never in a million years mate, keep on dreaming. The Griff was a design classic. the Tamora isn't.
I sort of agree with jodypress despite being a Tamora owner - the Tamora is the ugly duckling of the current TVR range, the rear just doesn't work! But I still think the front has plenty of presence when closing up in someone's rear view mirror (or so I've been told
) But even with the Tusc conv coming out, I think the Tam has a unique place as a more wieldy and nippy roadster than the Tuscan.
And I still hope they bring out a Tamora 2, with a one piece folding roof, and a more thorough facelift
Prof Pat Pending and daftlad, where did i mention anything about speed????
as you brought the subject up, i will add that upto 100 ish, there is very little in it, and driving generally the torque of the 5.0l RV8 is much more accessible.
now to really push the point home, the sp6 engine cars might be faster overall in the short run, but the griff will overtake them when they end up in the garage needing a rebuild due to bad engine design.
now try not to throw too many toys out of the cradle
as you brought the subject up, i will add that upto 100 ish, there is very little in it, and driving generally the torque of the 5.0l RV8 is much more accessible.
now to really push the point home, the sp6 engine cars might be faster overall in the short run, but the griff will overtake them when they end up in the garage needing a rebuild due to bad engine design.
now try not to throw too many toys out of the cradle
jodypress said:
Prof Pat Pending and daftlad, where did i mention anything about speed????
as you brought the subject up, i will add that upto 100 ish, there is very little in it, and driving generally the torque of the 5.0l RV8 is much more accessible.
now to really push the point home, the sp6 engine cars might be faster overall in the short run, but the griff will overtake them when they end up in the garage needing a rebuild due to bad engine design.
now try not to throw too many toys out of the cradle
Let's not go there shall we?
In truth, most cars in the Griffmaera/Tamora category have extraordinarily similar performance in terms of straight line speed. The newer TVRs have a definite edge in terms of handling - and these comments are based on track day observations and 2 Eurohoons where Griffs and Chimaeras were consistently left behind by Tamoras/Tuscans. However, a car really needs at least 70-100bhp extra before you notice a real difference in performance. As for the reliability issue, it striks me that S6 owners are more ready to moan and complain if the engine goes pop, since Griffmaera owners expect a problem from time to time, and chuckle and tut at the idiosyncratic nature of their cars when those problems arise.
jodypress said:
as you brought the subject up, i will add that upto 100 ish, there is very little in it, and driving generally the torque of the 5.0l RV8 is much more accessible.
now to really push the point home, the sp6 engine cars might be faster overall in the short run, but the griff will overtake them when they end up in the garage needing a rebuild due to bad engine design.
now try not to throw too many toys out of the cradle
No toy throwing, just my observations
On the Sussex run on Sat, myself and billynomates were there in a Tam and Tusc, and of the 3 Griffmaera owners there, a couple of them had both had V8 rebuilds, one being on his 2nd rebuild, whereas yes, I've had one rebuild, but billy hasn't.
And I've had a Griff 500 owner admit he couldn't keep up on the twisty bits, well below 100mph.
I really don't see the Tamora becoming the next Griff. Although the Tamora is a pretty car, it does not attract universal 'cor' attention like the Griff or Chimaera does. If anything I'd say the Tuscan is the new Griff (but to me they've both got ugly, fat arses so I'll stick with my 'mattress' bottomed Chimaera and GT6 stylee T350).
IMHO late model Griffs and Chimaeras are way overpriced and the only thing keeping them there is the fact that the newer model cars have a Speed Six engine. In terms of handling, refinement and safety the newer models are leaps and bounds ahead of the older cars.
I think we're just seeing a few cheap T350s at the moment - but look at the interior combos on some of them - rather dodgy. We've also seen Tamoras for just over 20k - serious bargain or what!?! Some people are keen to shift, the issue of Speed Six reliability lingers, I don't think the prices will drop much below 20k for now though.
Remember, you don't face depreciation until you sell the car. So keep it. The 10k you may lose in year 1 would drop to 5k a year after 3/4 years (ish). The 'saving' could be spent on an engine rebuild if you need one. If you don't like been seen in a car which isn't new then get a private plate and stop being an image ponce worrying about what other people think.
IMHO late model Griffs and Chimaeras are way overpriced and the only thing keeping them there is the fact that the newer model cars have a Speed Six engine. In terms of handling, refinement and safety the newer models are leaps and bounds ahead of the older cars.
I think we're just seeing a few cheap T350s at the moment - but look at the interior combos on some of them - rather dodgy. We've also seen Tamoras for just over 20k - serious bargain or what!?! Some people are keen to shift, the issue of Speed Six reliability lingers, I don't think the prices will drop much below 20k for now though.
Remember, you don't face depreciation until you sell the car. So keep it. The 10k you may lose in year 1 would drop to 5k a year after 3/4 years (ish). The 'saving' could be spent on an engine rebuild if you need one. If you don't like been seen in a car which isn't new then get a private plate and stop being an image ponce worrying about what other people think.
I too think the Tuscan is 'the new Griff', I LOVE the looks of the Tuscs, but I LOVE the handling of the Tam more. TBH, the Griff has never really done it for me, the Chim, I felt being a nigh on perfect looking sportscar.
I find it a giggle that before the S6 cars became so prolific on these forums, there were always loads of moans about the V8 cars, crank going, cam worn etc, it seems they keep more quiet about probs these days to make it seem as though the S6 is Lucifer incarnate! lol
I find it a giggle that before the S6 cars became so prolific on these forums, there were always loads of moans about the V8 cars, crank going, cam worn etc, it seems they keep more quiet about probs these days to make it seem as though the S6 is Lucifer incarnate! lol
The Tam will IMO certainly become a Tiv classic. I agree it is neither "the new Chim", nor "the new Griff". It's in a league of its own. It is strange looking in photos and stunning in the flesh. It's extrordinarily quick at high revs but very user friendly at low revs. It's handling is amazing and, the cherry on top its fully convertable. Add to that the fact that there are only about 450 of them out there and you have a classic in the making!
k.k. said:
The Tam will IMO certainly become a Tiv classic. I agree it is neither "the new Chim", nor "the new Griff". It's in a league of its own. It is strange looking in photos and stunning in the flesh. It's extrordinarily quick at high revs but very user friendly at low revs. It's handling is amazing and, the cherry on top its fully convertable. Add to that the fact that there are only about 450 of them out there and you have a classic in the making!
I actually spotted my first Tamora on the road the other day. Was in Basingstoke if anyone here? Looked like a reflex green or similar colour.
Whilst I'm not a fan of the rear end of the car it looked absolutely stunning on the road. Made an awesome noise as well. Shame I was in my Omega rather than the Griff - which is off the road due to speedo being repaired
Graham B said:
I actually spotted my first Tamora on the road the other day. Was in Basingstoke if anyone here? Looked like a reflex green or similar colour.
Whilst I'm not a fan of the rear end of the car it looked absolutely stunning on the road. Made an awesome noise as well. Shame I was in my Omega rather than the Griff - which is off the road due to speedo being repaired
When you actually see the Tam in the flesh, especially with the 18" wheels, it does look great, a lot better than a picture, its so squat and no unnecessary overhangs on the front and back, it always looks like its itching to dart around corners at silly speeds!
I went in the Clio to work this morning, and for the first time in two weeks of driving to work, I went past a black T350! Bloody typical!!! And, to add insult to injury, a smug Z4 owner blasted past me on my favorite launch pad, I mean hill
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