Clueless in Munich
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Hello All,
Well first I now have the only registered (with TUV)Tamora in Germany. It took three months to get it (I relocated here due to work in Nov05). The only trouble is now its back from the TVR garage 600km away after getting its TUV its broken down ! (and its 25 degrees here at the moment, roof down in the garage weather)
So I wondered if anyone can make any useful suggestions : I can drive about 50M before the engine cuts out. Then its very difficult to restart. goes 50m dies, restart, The idle is very irratic and it was stalling in traffic before (but I think this is a red herring) Just been serviced new plugs, and no sign of water ingress - Does any of this sound familiar
Well first I now have the only registered (with TUV)Tamora in Germany. It took three months to get it (I relocated here due to work in Nov05). The only trouble is now its back from the TVR garage 600km away after getting its TUV its broken down ! (and its 25 degrees here at the moment, roof down in the garage weather)
So I wondered if anyone can make any useful suggestions : I can drive about 50M before the engine cuts out. Then its very difficult to restart. goes 50m dies, restart, The idle is very irratic and it was stalling in traffic before (but I think this is a red herring) Just been serviced new plugs, and no sign of water ingress - Does any of this sound familiar
Let me add some futher information for all you diagnostic experts !
When I drove the car back for the service the first 400km were dry, and all was well. The next 200km were very wet, and there was very periodic misfiring, rough feeling. Then I got home parked the car in the garage for five days and the next time I drove it the 50m stalling / cutting out / difficult starting Started.
There appears to be no sign of water ingress ! Its probably still got to go to the dealer, but if they have a good idea what it might be, they can come to car rather than have it transported 1200km round trip and 2 weeks away no doubt ! Since its the only Tam in Germany they dont have a lot of experiance with them !!
When I drove the car back for the service the first 400km were dry, and all was well. The next 200km were very wet, and there was very periodic misfiring, rough feeling. Then I got home parked the car in the garage for five days and the next time I drove it the 50m stalling / cutting out / difficult starting Started.
There appears to be no sign of water ingress ! Its probably still got to go to the dealer, but if they have a good idea what it might be, they can come to car rather than have it transported 1200km round trip and 2 weeks away no doubt ! Since its the only Tam in Germany they dont have a lot of experiance with them !!
Hi, fault code 26 is air con as you thought. From your description, water ingress to engine ecu or ignition system sounds possible. But unfortunately, may just be a coincidence. Your dealer should have more specific idea, if not, call a UK dealer first, they will generally give brief advice over the phone, but electrics are not the easiest thing to diagnose at a distance. Think water in fuel is pretty unlikely unless you left filler open.
Good luck.
Good luck.
If you're a long way away from specialist support then I suggest you get somebody local to check the basics. What is the air fuel ratio like before the problem occurs, do you have a good spark. This would at least tell you whether you were looking at a fuel or ignition problem, which would reduce the amount of guesswork. Once you have found the answer to that there's more investigation that can be done at long range if necessary, assuming you can find somebody locally who is able to do basic fault finding under instruction.
Why don't you contact Auto Sautter GmbH & Co.KG, Münchenerstrasse 29, D-82319 Starnberg.
1.Tel.: +49 - (0)8151 / 998980 2.Tel.: +49 - (0)172 / 8969226 Fax: +49 - (0)8151 / 12293
They use to be TVR main dealers and have had a few AJP S6 engined cars through their workshop.
Edited to add: They're 27 kms from the centre of Muenchen, multimap tells me.
>> Edited by tvrinbfg on Sunday 7th May 15:07
1.Tel.: +49 - (0)8151 / 998980 2.Tel.: +49 - (0)172 / 8969226 Fax: +49 - (0)8151 / 12293
They use to be TVR main dealers and have had a few AJP S6 engined cars through their workshop.
Edited to add: They're 27 kms from the centre of Muenchen, multimap tells me.
>> Edited by tvrinbfg on Sunday 7th May 15:07
Hi
These guys might be able to help, they put the first and only Sag on germanys roads, and they are only 30km from munich:
[url]www.tvr-deutschland.com/start.html[/url]
You´ll find a phonenumber under Händler or Impressum.
Cheers Jens
P.S. Would you like to meet up for a little topless motoring when your motor is running again? Or maybe just for a beer and some petroltalk?
>> Edited by aerospoke on Monday 8th May 00:02
These guys might be able to help, they put the first and only Sag on germanys roads, and they are only 30km from munich:
[url]www.tvr-deutschland.com/start.html[/url]
You´ll find a phonenumber under Händler or Impressum.
Cheers Jens
P.S. Would you like to meet up for a little topless motoring when your motor is running again? Or maybe just for a beer and some petroltalk?
>> Edited by aerospoke on Monday 8th May 00:02
OK - Now this was useful - Its easy to get confused. On TVRs website in the UK they say dealers in Germany - TVR Deutschland GmbH, i.e. Hagen 600km. These guys you talk about have a web address tvr-deutschland.com, I thought it was Hagen, but it isnt !! So I spoke to them, they have two sags themselves so thats good, and will pick my car up tomorrow. Apparently they have connections with TVR Gatwick, and have either just got or are getting TVR dealership status, but they definately appear to know what theyre talking about, and 40 clicks from me !
So Cheers, Will let you know how it goes !!
So Cheers, Will let you know how it goes !!
Hi All,
So all is well again. Those chaps in Dachau (30km from me)really know a few things about speed 6s and their service left some other garages standing. Phoned them one day, collected the car the next day, worked on it until 10:30pm and had it back next day, just in time for all my European colleagues who were over here in munich for a meeting to gasp in awe at the beast ! And they have camera solutions for those difficult RHD overtaking maneouvers, developed specialised cooling systems, and have carbon fibre wheels etc etc, So I will go over and have a look at their Sags soon I hope, to see what other goodies they come up with !!!
also anyone experimented with Xenon lights (full upgrade?) I think there is a solution on the way !!
As for the cutting out problem, I will let everyone know a definative answer, plugs and fuel line I think (just in case anyone experiances the same) And...
Jens -
I owe you a few beers - and tops down sound good (Thanks for the intel, it was invaluable !)
So all is well again. Those chaps in Dachau (30km from me)really know a few things about speed 6s and their service left some other garages standing. Phoned them one day, collected the car the next day, worked on it until 10:30pm and had it back next day, just in time for all my European colleagues who were over here in munich for a meeting to gasp in awe at the beast ! And they have camera solutions for those difficult RHD overtaking maneouvers, developed specialised cooling systems, and have carbon fibre wheels etc etc, So I will go over and have a look at their Sags soon I hope, to see what other goodies they come up with !!!
also anyone experimented with Xenon lights (full upgrade?) I think there is a solution on the way !!
As for the cutting out problem, I will let everyone know a definative answer, plugs and fuel line I think (just in case anyone experiances the same) And...
Jens -
I owe you a few beers - and tops down sound good (Thanks for the intel, it was invaluable !)
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