New T350 owner
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Just taken delivery last Saturday of a T350t having traded in a Griff 500. What an awesome car the T350 is, just can't get enough of it. Fantastic styling, unbelievable engine noise, brilliant handling and ride, a truly stunning car. Anyway enough need to get to the serious stuff.
One quick question for those amongst you experienced with speed six engines, the handbook states that you should let the oil temperature get to 40 degrees before taking the revs above 3k, how long should this take as I've been doing various short trips around home but even after 25 miles or so the oil temp has only just gone above 40 degrees and that has only been whilst dawdling in traffic, as soon as I get moving at say 60 to 70 mph the oil temp drops back down to the low 30's? Is there something wrong with the gauge or sender?
Thanks in advance for any advice, suggestions or ideas.
One quick question for those amongst you experienced with speed six engines, the handbook states that you should let the oil temperature get to 40 degrees before taking the revs above 3k, how long should this take as I've been doing various short trips around home but even after 25 miles or so the oil temp has only just gone above 40 degrees and that has only been whilst dawdling in traffic, as soon as I get moving at say 60 to 70 mph the oil temp drops back down to the low 30's? Is there something wrong with the gauge or sender?
Thanks in advance for any advice, suggestions or ideas.
You lucky person, you probably got the last or one of the last T350's !! TVR said they have stopped making them today !! They are great only had mine 1 month and love it !! oil temp on mine goes to 50 under 10mins and about 5 miles. Sound like a faulty sensor go back to the dealer check.
carsarecool said:
Mine gets to 50 at idle in about 10 mins.
I thought you had to let the oil temp get to 60 before you stretch the engine at all?
Time for a
I thought you had to let the oil temp get to 60 before you stretch the engine at all?
Time for a
Don't leave it idling to warm up. Lots of discussion on this in the past. Drive off and drive gently for 10 miles or so. Less load on the cam surfaces and more oil circulation, plus the diff, clutch, gearbox get warmed up too.
targarama said:
carsarecool said:
Mine gets to 50 at idle in about 10 mins.
I thought you had to let the oil temp get to 60 before you stretch the engine at all?
Time for a
I thought you had to let the oil temp get to 60 before you stretch the engine at all?
Time for a
Don't leave it idling to warm up. Lots of discussion on this in the past. Drive off and drive gently for 10 miles or so. Less load on the cam surfaces and more oil circulation, plus the diff, clutch, gearbox get warmed up too.
No, I did read this some time ago on PH and in practice, it's usually what I do.
What about the 60 degree oil temp though?
carsarecool said:
targarama said:
carsarecool said:
Mine gets to 50 at idle in about 10 mins.
I thought you had to let the oil temp get to 60 before you stretch the engine at all?
Time for a
I thought you had to let the oil temp get to 60 before you stretch the engine at all?
Time for a
Don't leave it idling to warm up. Lots of discussion on this in the past. Drive off and drive gently for 10 miles or so. Less load on the cam surfaces and more oil circulation, plus the diff, clutch, gearbox get warmed up too.
No, I did read this some time ago on PH and in practice, it's usually what I do.
What about the 60 degree oil temp though?
Well the theory is don't use all the revs until its fully warmed through so all the various metals and alloys have expanded to their working temperatures and the oil is nice and slick to slide around and protect stuff. If the oil temp gets to 40 deg and you start using the 4,000-5,000 rev range for the odd spurt the engine warms through more quickly (assuming you're not on the motorway in the winter), getting to 60 deg faster so you can unleash the beast completely.
The key thing is to watch the oil temp and not the water temp, don't drive hard when cold and you'll be OK. Various people talk about 3,000rpm which is good - what this really means is keep it down. 3,050 revs won't mean the engine is going to blow up. 2,500 is probably better etc.
Mind you, all this careful driving might have preserved my engine internals ... but having the head gasket go hasn't mean't I'm without the car for less time. Come on TVR I want my car back (Ok, its only been 3 weeks - hopefully only another week).
My rule of thumb.
No more than 2500 till 40 Deg
No more than 3000 till 50 Deg
No more than 4000 till 60 Deg
No more than 6000 till 80 Deg.
Seems ok so far with minimal oil usage on the three S6 enginess we've had (and no failures at all)
On the time to warm up? Depends on ambient - obviously, but also on the type of driving.
No more than 2500 till 40 Deg
No more than 3000 till 50 Deg
No more than 4000 till 60 Deg
No more than 6000 till 80 Deg.
Seems ok so far with minimal oil usage on the three S6 enginess we've had (and no failures at all)
On the time to warm up? Depends on ambient - obviously, but also on the type of driving.
honahont350 said:
I NEVER!.... go above 3k until the temp hits 90. End of. 
If you're talking oil temp I'd be surprised if you'll never get above 3000 rpm. If you can get above 90deg using only 3000 rpm - consider a sendor change.
If of course you mean water temp, please think again. Water temp indication is not what you should be looking at. My post, and most of the others on here, relate to oil temp.
Daftlad said:
honahont350 said:
I NEVER!.... go above 3k until the temp hits 90. End of.
If you're talking oil temp I'd be surprised if you'll never get above 3000 rpm. If you can get above 90deg using only 3000 rpm - consider a sendor change.
If of course you mean water temp, please think again. Water temp indication is not what you should be looking at. My post, and most of the others on here, relate to oil temp.
Indeed, I will not go over 3K until my water temp sensor shows at least -25!
Daftlad said:
honahont350 said:
I NEVER!.... go above 3k until the temp hits 90. End of.
If you're talking oil temp I'd be surprised if you'll never get above 3000 rpm. If you can get above 90deg using only 3000 rpm - consider a sendor change.
If of course you mean water temp, please think again. Water temp indication is not what you should be looking at. My post, and most of the others on here, relate to oil temp.
No no.. i'm def looking at the oil. I set the computer up to show oil temp and MPH as the 2 main displays. It normally takes around 20 / 30 minutes or so before blast off can commence
Daftlad said:
My rule of thumb.
No more than 2500 till 40 Deg
No more than 3000 till 50 Deg
No more than 4000 till 60 Deg
No more than 6000 till 80 Deg.
Seems ok so far with minimal oil usage on the three S6 enginess we've had (and no failures at all)
On the time to warm up? Depends on ambient - obviously, but also on the type of driving.
No more than 2500 till 40 Deg
No more than 3000 till 50 Deg
No more than 4000 till 60 Deg
No more than 6000 till 80 Deg.
Seems ok so far with minimal oil usage on the three S6 enginess we've had (and no failures at all)
On the time to warm up? Depends on ambient - obviously, but also on the type of driving.
Have wondered about this - people say on here you shouldn't let the engine labour, which in general consitutes under 2000, which gives a band of 500rpm to drive in when cold which IMO is not feasible
Very seldom do I see over 80 degrees as well, which means I would virtually never take it over 6000
Personally, from cold up to about 40 I try to keep it under 3000rpm, 40-50 I'll keep it under 4000, 50-60 occasional ventures above 4000-5000 and then do what I want once it's over 60 (don't really take it over 7000 at all though)
honahont350 said:
Daftlad said:
honahont350 said:
I NEVER!.... go above 3k until the temp hits 90. End of.
If you're talking oil temp I'd be surprised if you'll never get above 3000 rpm. If you can get above 90deg using only 3000 rpm - consider a sendor change.
If of course you mean water temp, please think again. Water temp indication is not what you should be looking at. My post, and most of the others on here, relate to oil temp.
No no.. i'm def looking at the oil. I set the computer up to show oil temp and MPH as the 2 main displays. It normally takes around 20 / 30 minutes or so before blast off can commence
Are you sure that's right? I don't think I ever seen 90 even when I arrived at a very hot Le Mans in heavy traffic!
This was posted on TOG some five years ago.
JOHN RAVENSCROFT’S TIPS ON MECHANICAL SYMPATHY AND HIS ENGINES!
RUNNING IN
Most importantly, drive fairly normally. Being too gentle with an engine when running in can be as bad as being too rough.
Although it is important to avoid full throttle or over 4,000 rpm during the first 1,000 miles, occasional bursts (c.5 seconds) of 75% throttle up to 4,000 rpm, will help to bed the piston rings in.
FROM COLD
When starting, please be careful not to let it rev straight up so please make sure that you do not give it anything more than a tiny bit of throttle while cranking it over and then lift off as soon as it catches.
Then try to avoid more than 3,000 rpm until the oil (not water) temperature has exceeded 40 Deg.C, 4,000 rpm until 60 Deg.C and 7,000 rpm until 80 Deg.C. If it climbs above 110 Deg.C, please keep the revs below 5,000 rpm until the oil temperature returns to normal.
JOHN RAVENSCROFT’S TIPS ON MECHANICAL SYMPATHY AND HIS ENGINES!
RUNNING IN
Most importantly, drive fairly normally. Being too gentle with an engine when running in can be as bad as being too rough.
Although it is important to avoid full throttle or over 4,000 rpm during the first 1,000 miles, occasional bursts (c.5 seconds) of 75% throttle up to 4,000 rpm, will help to bed the piston rings in.
FROM COLD
When starting, please be careful not to let it rev straight up so please make sure that you do not give it anything more than a tiny bit of throttle while cranking it over and then lift off as soon as it catches.
Then try to avoid more than 3,000 rpm until the oil (not water) temperature has exceeded 40 Deg.C, 4,000 rpm until 60 Deg.C and 7,000 rpm until 80 Deg.C. If it climbs above 110 Deg.C, please keep the revs below 5,000 rpm until the oil temperature returns to normal.
I keep to 2500 under 40 degrees and then no more than 4000 until over 60 degrees. This is what I was told to do by my local dealer where I bought the car. It is also in my handbook. I am pretty particular about this and have double checked with the dealer after reading a few different methods on here.
In terms of reaching the higher oil temperatures, I did see 89 degrees yesterday but that was a particularly arduous journey in very slow traffic. Its never usually up there and certainly not when moving at speed when it tends to cool down a fair bit.
In terms of reaching the higher oil temperatures, I did see 89 degrees yesterday but that was a particularly arduous journey in very slow traffic. Its never usually up there and certainly not when moving at speed when it tends to cool down a fair bit.
TurboTomato said:
Daftlad said:
My rule of thumb.
No more than 2500 till 40 Deg
No more than 3000 till 50 Deg
No more than 4000 till 60 Deg
No more than 6000 till 80 Deg.
Seems ok so far with minimal oil usage on the three S6 enginess we've had (and no failures at all)
On the time to warm up? Depends on ambient - obviously, but also on the type of driving.
No more than 2500 till 40 Deg
No more than 3000 till 50 Deg
No more than 4000 till 60 Deg
No more than 6000 till 80 Deg.
Seems ok so far with minimal oil usage on the three S6 enginess we've had (and no failures at all)
On the time to warm up? Depends on ambient - obviously, but also on the type of driving.
Have wondered about this - people say on here you shouldn't let the engine labour, which in general consitutes under 2000, which gives a band of 500rpm to drive in when cold which IMO is not feasible
Very seldom do I see over 80 degrees as well, which means I would virtually never take it over 6000
Personally, from cold up to about 40 I try to keep it under 3000rpm, 40-50 I'll keep it under 4000, 50-60 occasional ventures above 4000-5000 and then do what I want once it's over 60 (don't really take it over 7000 at all though)
Labouring is being in too high-a-gear and having the revs down (such as 25mph in fourth, 40mph in fifth). Not if your accelerating in second/third. Or its by leaving the engine ticking over below 1000rpm ish.
I've said this before, but what gets me is that for about 9 months of the year i find myself pootling around until the temperature gets up to a high enough level to be able to have a wee blast, but then when you do have a wee blast the oil seems to cool right down again to 'non-blast' temp.
e.g. if i go away for a weekend, getting out of the city, the temp. will be upto a good level, but as soon as you get on the motorway, the air passing over the sensor/oil will cool it down to about 40 and keep it there. I've done a few motorway journeys in the car before where i've had to stay at ~60mph cos the oil temp. just wouldn't go above 40 degrees!!
e.g. if i go away for a weekend, getting out of the city, the temp. will be upto a good level, but as soon as you get on the motorway, the air passing over the sensor/oil will cool it down to about 40 and keep it there. I've done a few motorway journeys in the car before where i've had to stay at ~60mph cos the oil temp. just wouldn't go above 40 degrees!!
holmsie said:
I've said this before, but what gets me is that for about 9 months of the year i find myself pootling around until the temperature gets up to a high enough level to be able to have a wee blast, but then when you do have a wee blast the oil seems to cool right down again to 'non-blast' temp.
e.g. if i go away for a weekend, getting out of the city, the temp. will be upto a good level, but as soon as you get on the motorway, the air passing over the sensor/oil will cool it down to about 40 and keep it there. I've done a few motorway journeys in the car before where i've had to stay at ~60mph cos the oil temp. just wouldn't go above 40 degrees!!
e.g. if i go away for a weekend, getting out of the city, the temp. will be upto a good level, but as soon as you get on the motorway, the air passing over the sensor/oil will cool it down to about 40 and keep it there. I've done a few motorway journeys in the car before where i've had to stay at ~60mph cos the oil temp. just wouldn't go above 40 degrees!!
That'll be the sender that is cooling. This has been discussed before and my personal view is that the oil might cool a bit, but not as much as the sender thinks. Once you've got up to temp then if it drops like this just be slightly gentle, but don't worry too much. All those explosions going on in the engine (which is up to temp) will soon warm it up again if not (remember, the job of oil is to both COOL and lubricate).
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