Sagaris 1st impressions
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I test drove my first sagaris today, and had been wondering how it would compare to my 55 plate T350.
My initial impressions were:-
Impressed with
1) Very easy to drive and very smooth
2) the ride is more compliant than the T350 when just cruising along
3) Steering feel is better, not as darty, if thats a word, as the T350.
4) IMO seats are much better too
Not so impressed with
1) Acceleration, it felt no quicker than my standard T350 which i was really surprised about, infact it may have even felt a little bit slower but i think this was down to the fact i didnt give it as many revs.
2) cant believe they dont use the aluminium indicator stalks ala the Tam and T350, just some crappy ford bin ones
My initial impressions were:-
Impressed with
1) Very easy to drive and very smooth
2) the ride is more compliant than the T350 when just cruising along
3) Steering feel is better, not as darty, if thats a word, as the T350.
4) IMO seats are much better too
Not so impressed with
1) Acceleration, it felt no quicker than my standard T350 which i was really surprised about, infact it may have even felt a little bit slower but i think this was down to the fact i didnt give it as many revs.
2) cant believe they dont use the aluminium indicator stalks ala the Tam and T350, just some crappy ford bin ones
Edited by maxx-waxx on Saturday 10th March 19:39
maxx-waxx said:
I test drove my first sagaris today, and had been wondering how it would compare to my 55 plate T350.
My initial impressions were:-
Impressed with
1) Very easy to drive and very smooth
2) the ride is more compliant than the T350 when just cruising along
3) Steering feel is better, not as darty, if thats a word, as the T350.
Not so impressed with
1) Acceleration, it felt no quicker than my standard T350 which i was really surprised about, infact it may have even felt a little bit slower but i think this was down to the fact i didnt give it as many revs.
2) cant believe they dont use the aluminium indicator stalks ala the Tam and T350, just some crappy ford bin ones
My initial impressions were:-
Impressed with
1) Very easy to drive and very smooth
2) the ride is more compliant than the T350 when just cruising along
3) Steering feel is better, not as darty, if thats a word, as the T350.
Not so impressed with
1) Acceleration, it felt no quicker than my standard T350 which i was really surprised about, infact it may have even felt a little bit slower but i think this was down to the fact i didnt give it as many revs.
2) cant believe they dont use the aluminium indicator stalks ala the Tam and T350, just some crappy ford bin ones
test drive cause you can or cause your looking of swapping?
david godfrey said:
maxx-waxx said:
I test drove my first sagaris today, and had been wondering how it would compare to my 55 plate T350.
My initial impressions were:-
Impressed with
1) Very easy to drive and very smooth
2) the ride is more compliant than the T350 when just cruising along
3) Steering feel is better, not as darty, if thats a word, as the T350.
Not so impressed with
1) Acceleration, it felt no quicker than my standard T350 which i was really surprised about, infact it may have even felt a little bit slower but i think this was down to the fact i didnt give it as many revs.
2) cant believe they dont use the aluminium indicator stalks ala the Tam and T350, just some crappy ford bin ones
My initial impressions were:-
Impressed with
1) Very easy to drive and very smooth
2) the ride is more compliant than the T350 when just cruising along
3) Steering feel is better, not as darty, if thats a word, as the T350.
Not so impressed with
1) Acceleration, it felt no quicker than my standard T350 which i was really surprised about, infact it may have even felt a little bit slower but i think this was down to the fact i didnt give it as many revs.
2) cant believe they dont use the aluminium indicator stalks ala the Tam and T350, just some crappy ford bin ones
test drive cause you can or cause your looking of swapping?
on his second new tvr of recent so one would assume he will be swapping again.
Edited by hollowpockets on Saturday 10th March 19:09
a.g. said:
maxx-waxx said:
The ride is more compliant than the T350 when just cruising along
Steering feel is better, not as darty, if thats a word, as the T350.
Not so impressed with acceleration, it felt no quicker than my standard T350
The handling is the biggest difference T350/Sag. Different league, longer wishbones, wider track. and you are right-much less darty.
If its an early one then it may have the tall (wrong) diff. Quite a few did. My old Tuscan S could outdrag the first batch of dealer cars.
It was an 06 plate with 1600 miles so fairly new
maxx-waxx said:
t40ora said:
Nick,
Don't change just for the sake of it man. Get some mods on your T350 before you swap models.
Or do you have money burning a hole in your pocket
?
Don't change just for the sake of it man. Get some mods on your T350 before you swap models.
Or do you have money burning a hole in your pocket
?Hi Lee,
I know I know I know, Thats sounds like what my wife said, oh apart from the get some mods bit
Well, have fun test driving for a while - THEN stick with what you've got, get some mods and show the wife what a good boy you've been because you saved some money AND ended up with an improved car. Sorted
Nick,
Just swapped from a T350t to a saggy and the difference in handling is a major improvement, the steering seams to be more fluid. In terms of outright pace, the T350 seamed to rev easier, but the Saggy has more grunt and is easier to drive a low speed.
Do it, you won't regret it!!!
j
Ginner said:
Nick,
Just swapped from a T350t to a saggy and the difference in handling is a major improvement, the steering seams to be more fluid. In terms of outright pace, the T350 seamed to rev easier, but the Saggy has more grunt and is easier to drive a low speed.
Do it, you won't regret it!!!
j
John was yours the yellow 05 Sag which was for sale at Fernhursts.
I love that colour too btw
There is no linear and clear association of which time frame car got which diff.
Some of the earlie cars got the tall diff correct, over the production run though plenty of other cars get various diffs, there is no rule. The car you drove might also be using the wrong exhaust, it possibly got slid and is running the small bore system or even a right bodge job, a large bore system with restricted small bore cats (at least one ph Sagaris owners has had inflicted upon him). You dont know what diff you were running or the state of tune of the engine...with only 1600 miles on it, it will feel tight though, they do free up after about 6000 miles.
As to handling to be honest that is entirely subjective...all the Sagaris cars have different suspensions! In reality, very few cars are running the same set up despite what TVR said. There are even a few cars out there that dont even have the same make at each corner!
Just find a good individual car that you like, feels good and puts a smile on your face. Then buy it.
Some of the earlie cars got the tall diff correct, over the production run though plenty of other cars get various diffs, there is no rule. The car you drove might also be using the wrong exhaust, it possibly got slid and is running the small bore system or even a right bodge job, a large bore system with restricted small bore cats (at least one ph Sagaris owners has had inflicted upon him). You dont know what diff you were running or the state of tune of the engine...with only 1600 miles on it, it will feel tight though, they do free up after about 6000 miles.
As to handling to be honest that is entirely subjective...all the Sagaris cars have different suspensions! In reality, very few cars are running the same set up despite what TVR said. There are even a few cars out there that dont even have the same make at each corner!
Just find a good individual car that you like, feels good and puts a smile on your face. Then buy it.
DJC said:
There is no linear and clear association of which time frame car got which diff.
Some of the earlie cars got the tall diff correct, over the production run though plenty of other cars get various diffs, there is no rule.
Just find a good individual car that you like, feels good and puts a smile on your face. Then buy it.
Some of the earlie cars got the tall diff correct, over the production run though plenty of other cars get various diffs, there is no rule.
Just find a good individual car that you like, feels good and puts a smile on your face. Then buy it.
DJC - Is there anyway to find out which Diff is being used, HHC supplied the car but i bet they wouldnt know
maxx-waxx said:
DJC said:
There is no linear and clear association of which time frame car got which diff.
Some of the earlie cars got the tall diff correct, over the production run though plenty of other cars get various diffs, there is no rule.
Just find a good individual car that you like, feels good and puts a smile on your face. Then buy it.
Some of the earlie cars got the tall diff correct, over the production run though plenty of other cars get various diffs, there is no rule.
Just find a good individual car that you like, feels good and puts a smile on your face. Then buy it.
DJC - Is there anyway to find out which Diff is being used, HHC supplied the car but i bet they wouldnt know
Not of a car you are only interested in but not yet your own really, no.
DJC said:
maxx-waxx said:
DJC said:
There is no linear and clear association of which time frame car got which diff.
Some of the earlie cars got the tall diff correct, over the production run though plenty of other cars get various diffs, there is no rule.
Just find a good individual car that you like, feels good and puts a smile on your face. Then buy it.
Some of the earlie cars got the tall diff correct, over the production run though plenty of other cars get various diffs, there is no rule.
Just find a good individual car that you like, feels good and puts a smile on your face. Then buy it.
DJC - Is there anyway to find out which Diff is being used, HHC supplied the car but i bet they wouldnt know
Not of a car you are only interested in but not yet your own really, no.
Yes i thought as much, Ta
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