4 Point Harness for Sagaris
4 Point Harness for Sagaris
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slowtypa

Original Poster:

86 posts

261 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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I would like to fit a 4 point harness to the Sagaris.

Has anyone fitted one to a Sag and could perhaps offer a few words of wisdom and advice......

Cheers thumbup

yellow peril

5,131 posts

302 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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Calling Sportie......Daftlad.......have either of you fitted a 4 point?

YP

MrsS

454 posts

282 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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yellow peril said:
Calling Sportie......Daftlad.......have either of you fitted a 4 point?

YP

Problems with the proper Sagaris seats. The harness will spread around the seat making it almost useless.

Would need to modify the seat to allow the shoulder straps to pass through behine the neck or change the seat.

Tuscan seats would be easier.

VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

237 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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[quote=MrsSProblems with the proper Sagaris seats. The harness will spread around the seat making it almost useless.

Would need to modify the seat to allow the shoulder straps to pass through behine the neck or change the seat.

Tuscan seats would be easier.[/quote]

Any ideas where to anchor 4 points with tuscan seats anyone

YI8TVR

387 posts

237 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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To put a 4p harness in you will need to do quite a lot of mods. Firstly you will have to change the seats, as Marg Simpson quite rightly said. Then you will have to get some kind of fixing point behind the seat for the shoulder straps. The type of seat with the holes in the back dont usually come with seat sliders so your seat will be in a fixed position probably.

I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.

Believe me its a nightmare.

The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.


Edited by YI8TVR on Saturday 5th May 11:43

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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YI8TVR said:
To put a 4p harness in you will need to do quite a lot of mods. Firstly you will have to change the seats, as Marg Simpson quite rightly said. Then you will have to get some kind of fixing point behind the seat for the shoulder straps. The type of seat with the holes in the back dont usually come with seat sliders so your seat will be in a fixed position probably.

I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.

Believe me its a nightmare.

The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.


Edited by YI8TVR on Saturday 5th May 11:43

Marg.....she will be pleased!

Think you've just saved me alot of agrovation!!

See you Tuesday at Cadwell (with Marg)

targarama

14,785 posts

313 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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Looks like we might have showers for Cadwell. Finger crossed for a dry line.

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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targarama said:
Looks like we might have showers for Cadwell. Finger crossed for a dry line.

Cant be as bad as last year.......surely!

YI8TVR

387 posts

237 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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Daftlad said:
YI8TVR said:
To put a 4p harness in you will need to do quite a lot of mods. Firstly you will have to change the seats, as Marg Simpson quite rightly said. Then you will have to get some kind of fixing point behind the seat for the shoulder straps. The type of seat with the holes in the back dont usually come with seat sliders so your seat will be in a fixed position probably.

I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.

Believe me its a nightmare.

The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.


Edited by YI8TVR on Saturday 5th May 11:43

Marg.....she will be pleased!

Think you've just saved me alot of agrovation!!

See you Tuesday at Cadwell (with Marg)



It was all in the best possible taste Mrs S. Please dont bash me up tuesday..

MrsS

454 posts

282 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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YI8TVR said:
Daftlad said:
YI8TVR said:
To put a 4p harness in you will need to do quite a lot of mods. Firstly you will have to change the seats, as Marg Simpson quite rightly said. Then you will have to get some kind of fixing point behind the seat for the shoulder straps. The type of seat with the holes in the back dont usually come with seat sliders so your seat will be in a fixed position probably.

I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.

Believe me its a nightmare.

The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.


Edited by YI8TVR on Saturday 5th May 11:43

Marg.....she will be pleased!

Think you've just saved me alot of agrovation!!

See you Tuesday at Cadwell (with Marg)

It was all in the best possible taste Mrs S. Please dont bash me up tuesday..

I will give it carefull consideration.

targarama

14,785 posts

313 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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Daftlad said:
targarama said:
Looks like we might have showers for Cadwell. Finger crossed for a dry line.

Cant be as bad as last year.......surely!


I missed last year after created my own rainstorm out of the radiator cap at Snetterton. Only managed 2 track days and got 2 blown HGs for the pleasure (2nd time was Oulton in Aug 06). I'll be taking it easy on Tuesday (honest).

MrsS

454 posts

282 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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targarama said:
Daftlad said:
targarama said:
Looks like we might have showers for Cadwell. Finger crossed for a dry line.

Cant be as bad as last year.......surely!
I'll be taking it easy on Tuesday (honest).

Me too laughlaugh

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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MrsS said:
targarama said:
Daftlad said:
targarama said:
Looks like we might have showers for Cadwell. Finger crossed for a dry line.

Cant be as bad as last year.......surely!
I'll be taking it easy on Tuesday (honest).

Me too laughlaugh

Sorry Targ, that was me posting, after taking the red wine bottle of the bride........

slowtypa

Original Poster:

86 posts

261 months

Sunday 6th May 2007
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Thank you for your reply Y18TVR thumbup

With respect can we please get this topic back on track (excuse the pun )

Anyone else to offer any advice on fitting a 4 point to a Sag??

YI8TVR

387 posts

237 months

Sunday 6th May 2007
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Its not a Sagaris but its close enough

Edited by YI8TVR on Sunday 6th May 12:01



Edited by YI8TVR on Sunday 6th May 12:03

VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

237 months

Sunday 6th May 2007
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[quote=YI8TVR]

Its not a Sagaris but its close enough

Do you loose/gain any headroom?

Do the bottom section anchor to the seat a la tuscan?

Where do top section anchor to?

Thanks G

YI8TVR

387 posts

237 months

Sunday 6th May 2007
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VARLEYHYD said:
[quote=YI8TVR]

Its not a Sagaris but its close enough

Do you loose/gain any headroom? Gain

Do the bottom section anchor to the seat a la tuscan? Chassis

Where do top section anchor to? 40mm tube behind seats fixed to roll cage

Thanks G

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Sunday 6th May 2007
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Back on topic, and apologies, that looks like a neat (and worthwhile - for me)installation. Need to investigate further.

YI8TVR

387 posts

237 months

Sunday 6th May 2007
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Daftlad said:
Back on topic, and apologies, that looks like a neat (and worthwhile - for me)installation. Need to investigate further.



You are welcome to have a nose Tuesday. Its probably the best thing ive done to the TVR apart from the 500hp supercharged engine transplant.yikes

Plus the all important weight saving. Its a saving of one TVR seat yes

VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

237 months

Sunday 6th May 2007
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YI8TVR said:
Daftlad said:
Back on topic, and apologies, that looks like a neat (and worthwhile - for me)installation. Need to investigate further.



You are welcome to have a nose Tuesday. Its probably the best thing ive done to the TVR apart from the 500hp supercharged engine transplant.yikes

Plus the all important weight saving. Its a saving of one TVR seat yes


Thanks for that
Just for info tuscan seats are 16kg each