There's this Tamora........
There's this Tamora........
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cirvy

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2,331 posts

293 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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..... for sale at Tony Gilbert's in orange with a 4 litre engine. Apparently it was an engine upgrade offered for free by the factory.

Any thoughts as to the merits of such a car, should it have had the full RR package??

Anyone on here moved from Cerbera to Tamora??

I'm just dipping my toe in the water you understand, but had my cerb for 5 years now, & whilst it's been a faultless beast, i'm sort of yearning for a bit of roofless action biggrin

Any thoughts gents?

Targarama

14,785 posts

313 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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Don't know. But I do know its been for sale for many months - should be worth a few bob in discount.

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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cirvy said:
..... for sale at Tony Gilbert's in orange with a 4 litre engine. Apparently it was an engine upgrade offered for free by the factory.

Any thoughts as to the merits of such a car, should it have had the full RR package??

Anyone on here moved from Cerbera to Tamora??

I'm just dipping my toe in the water you understand, but had my cerb for 5 years now, & whilst it's been a faultless beast, i'm sort of yearning for a bit of roofless action biggrin

Any thoughts gents?
It has not got the full RR package.

cirvy

Original Poster:

2,331 posts

293 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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Daftlad said:
cirvy said:
..... for sale at Tony Gilbert's in orange with a 4 litre engine. Apparently it was an engine upgrade offered for free by the factory.

Any thoughts as to the merits of such a car, should it have had the full RR package??

Anyone on here moved from Cerbera to Tamora??

I'm just dipping my toe in the water you understand, but had my cerb for 5 years now, & whilst it's been a faultless beast, i'm sort of yearning for a bit of roofless action biggrin

Any thoughts gents?
It has not got the full RR package.
I did'nt think it had, do you reckon it ought to have it, given it's got the extra power??

In other words, if i were to buy it, should i factor in for brakes & suspension upgrades??

YI8TVR

387 posts

237 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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cirvy said:
Daftlad said:
cirvy said:
..... for sale at Tony Gilbert's in orange with a 4 litre engine. Apparently it was an engine upgrade offered for free by the factory.

Any thoughts as to the merits of such a car, should it have had the full RR package??

Anyone on here moved from Cerbera to Tamora??

I'm just dipping my toe in the water you understand, but had my cerb for 5 years now, & whilst it's been a faultless beast, i'm sort of yearning for a bit of roofless action biggrin

Any thoughts gents?
It has not got the full RR package.
I did'nt think it had, do you reckon it ought to have it, given it's got the extra power??

In other words, if i were to buy it, should i factor in for brakes & suspension upgrades??
And a brush for your perm biggrin

cirvy

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2,331 posts

293 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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YI8TVR said:
And a brush for your perm biggrin
Got to keep up with those pesky little speed sixes round Cadwell some how, eh Mark biggrin

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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cirvy said:
Daftlad said:
cirvy said:
..... for sale at Tony Gilbert's in orange with a 4 litre engine. Apparently it was an engine upgrade offered for free by the factory.

Any thoughts as to the merits of such a car, should it have had the full RR package??

Anyone on here moved from Cerbera to Tamora??

I'm just dipping my toe in the water you understand, but had my cerb for 5 years now, & whilst it's been a faultless beast, i'm sort of yearning for a bit of roofless action biggrin

Any thoughts gents?
It has not got the full RR package.
I did'nt think it had, do you reckon it ought to have it, given it's got the extra power??

In other words, if i were to buy it, should i factor in for brakes & suspension upgrades??
The standard supsension is fine for a circuit use even with a modifed 4,0 engine in a Tamora (we have one and I know from experience this to be the case), it can however, like all things, be improved. Unless its a 4.0S spec engine, the bigger brakes would be a nice to have rather than essential - as it will have more toruque, but the same 350-360 bhp as the 3,6.

I doubt that the factory would have given a 4.0S engine as a no cost option, but straight 4.0 upgrades varied from no cost to a grand in 1995.......or how much a particular dealer thought he could get from the punter.

Hope this helps. smile

cirvy

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2,331 posts

293 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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That does help, thanks.

How do you think i would find it coming from a Cerb?

Dicky

928 posts

314 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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a bit more windy wink

Moulder

1,648 posts

242 months

Tuesday 29th May 2007
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I have moved from a Cerbera to a Tamora, but with a 5 year gap in between. In fact the Cerbera I had in 2002 is spookily currently on Ebay, yellow with navy interior, somewhere in Essex.

I bought the Tamora (instead of a Cerbera) because it was my second car and if it was going to be for sunny special days then a convertible would make them more special. My overall feeling is it feels a bit less "solid" and is a middle ground between a Cerbera and VX220 in terms of handling, build, feel, etc. In terms of performance Tamora feels quicker due to wind in hair and slightly less planted handling over bumpy roads.

Obviously they are very different cars, I guess trying a Tamora is the way forward. Nothing looks or sounds like a Cerbera, and it is the premium that you put on the roof coming off that decides if you can live without one. In my case the jury is still out.

Practicality wise fewer seats is obvious and less boot space with the roof in. Never had a problem with the roof leaking on mine no matter how bad the weather.

wixer

373 posts

280 months

Wednesday 30th May 2007
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Having spoken to guys at TVR Power in the past about engine specs, even on the old RV8's, it would seem that the factory would fit whatever engine was there at the time and I think I know the car you're talking about and it does have a 4.0L engine that was fitted at the factory.

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Wednesday 30th May 2007
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wixer said:
Having spoken to guys at TVR Power in the past about engine specs, even on the old RV8's, it would seem that the factory would fit whatever engine was there at the time and I think I know the car you're talking about and it does have a 4.0L engine that was fitted at the factory.
They would not fit a 4.0S engine into anything unless the costs were covered of that I'm sure. Cost differntial was significant.

Build sheet may help identify the engine size and spec, engine number may also, but its not a racing certainty.

cirvy

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2,331 posts

293 months

Wednesday 30th May 2007
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Is there a difference between the 4.0 engines, is there an 's' version????

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Thursday 31st May 2007
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cirvy said:
Is there a difference between the 4.0 engines, is there an 's' version????
There is.

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

288 months

Thursday 31st May 2007
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Daftlad said:
cirvy said:
Daftlad said:
cirvy said:
..... for sale at Tony Gilbert's in orange with a 4 litre engine. Apparently it was an engine upgrade offered for free by the factory.

Any thoughts as to the merits of such a car, should it have had the full RR package??

Anyone on here moved from Cerbera to Tamora??

I'm just dipping my toe in the water you understand, but had my cerb for 5 years now, & whilst it's been a faultless beast, i'm sort of yearning for a bit of roofless action biggrin

Any thoughts gents?
It has not got the full RR package.
I did'nt think it had, do you reckon it ought to have it, given it's got the extra power??

In other words, if i were to buy it, should i factor in for brakes & suspension upgrades??
The standard supsension is fine for a circuit use even with a modifed 4,0 engine in a Tamora (we have one and I know from experience this to be the case), it can however, like all things, be improved. Unless its a 4.0S spec engine, the bigger brakes would be a nice to have rather than essential - as it will have more toruque, but the same 350-360 bhp as the 3,6.

I doubt that the factory would have given a 4.0S engine as a no cost option, but straight 4.0 upgrades varied from no cost to a grand in 1995.......or how much a particular dealer thought he could get from the punter.

Hope this helps. smile
Get on to Bell Hill or one of the others, get a set if 322mm front disks, then call Dom at TVR power to make the space , and get 4 longer bots for the caliper, and you have S spec front disc. No need to change the hub. This is what I did with the help of the Factory and Dom to upgrade my brakes on my 4.0l RR T350

Mr F

Daftlad

3,324 posts

271 months

Thursday 31st May 2007
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yes fronts cheap as chips, rears are expensive as a hub mod or change is required to do properly. Not worth the expense to retro-fit IMHO.

cramorra

1,689 posts

265 months

Thursday 31st May 2007
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Have changed from a CERB to a T 350 recently (not totally voluntarely...)
Although it looks different at first (less seats, boot etc) Speed Six is the better everyday car (from the engine characteristic to the driving position to the visibility) and so on-

The Cerb on the other hand is a supercar (incl the impracticality and pain associated with it as also the power, the looks, the roar) as you know

I am not sure if this help

As the desk I am sitting on is out of wood I am not talking about the engine here...heheand I am firmly knocking on the desk here