Is my daily drive too short for the Sagaris?

[KillerJim]

Hi,

I`ve just thought of an interesting point before I buy a 2nd hand Sagaris (around £35k)...

My daily drive is about 4 miles to work, which means in my current car the engine just about reaches its usual running temperature.

Is this going to have a serious effect on any Sag's engine?

I know the only solution to this is to increase the distance to work but whats a good distance to cover? (not like I`ll mind taking the Sag for a few extra miles every morning or evening :-)

Thanks,

James

[Rob_T]

i would be cycling to work if that was the distance. i personally would not use mine for that sort of commute. however i would thoroughly recommend you get one. it really is a superb car

[Hughesie II]

Go the long way...

[grumbledoak]

4 miles is barely enough to warm up any engine. The Speed 6 won't like revs until she is warm, and she won't be. In a nut-shell, a slow pose or a knackered engine are your alternatives here.

Get a shitbox for the commute; save the Sagaris for the fun stuff.

[Daftlad]

KillerJim said:

Hi,

I`ve just thought of an interesting point before I buy a 2nd hand Sagaris (around £35k)...

My daily drive is about 4 miles to work, which means in my current car the engine just about reaches its usual running temperature.

Is this going to have a serious effect on any Sag's engine?

I know the only solution to this is to increase the distance to work but whats a good distance to cover? (not like I`ll mind taking the Sag for a few extra miles every morning or evening :-)

Thanks,

James

It wont be the best journey for the engine, it will be frustrating for the driver also waiting for oil temperatures to climb.

[hab1966]

My commute is approx 1 mile. If i take my T350, i take the long route!

[julianc]

Hughesie II said:

Go the long way...

Agree entirely, find a new (longer) route to work!

Julian

[NickT]

I have a 10 mile commute to work every day and on the odd occason I do take my T350 the oil temp only reaches 60 degrees when I pull into the car park It is very frustrating unless you have time to warm the car up in advance.

I have a daily driver, a nice little N reg SEAT Ibiza GTI 16v that picked up for next to nothing. Good enough to get me to and from work and much cheaper to run than the TVR.

[tam e j]

hi,

i travel 10 miles to work again the temps are only just gettin to the 60 mark so i personaly use a crappy van for work and save the best for fun.

why put the miles on it for work and leave it parked up allday in a car park,

for someone to hit whilst gettin in there car.

they may not care about hittin yours whilst gettin in theres!!

save the best 4 best.......

[Al Up North]

F-F-Sake! Warm it up for 5 mins before you leave.

[Daftlad]

Al Up North said:

F-F-Sake! Warm it up for 5 mins before you leave.

How would you suggest this is done - given to leave to idle is to potentialy damage the engine over time?

[T40ORA]

Daftlad said:

Al Up North said:

F-F-Sake! Warm it up for 5 mins before you leave.

How would you suggest this is done - given to leave to idle is to potentialy damage the engine over time?

I drive around my village several times before I leave for real, so I can hit the 50mph zone comfortably.

This has the added benefit that I make friends with lots of locals

[rolex]

No, im afraid the only solution is to move your house

[GR1FF1F]

Daftlad said:

Al Up North said:

F-F-Sake! Warm it up for 5 mins before you leave.

How would you suggest this is done - given to leave to idle is to potentialy damage the engine over time?

Always struggled with this dilemma, particularly in the winter when you get in and the oil temp is registering single digits. Loathe to drive away when it's that cold so I do tend to sit in the driveway for a few mins. Having heard the idling concerns however I do blip it gently to simulate driving behaviour - do you think it knows that I'm not actually moving ?

My commute is also relatively short at 12-15 miles depending on the route and it usually hits 70 degrees aboout half way there. Tonight however I'm off to Brands to catch the end of the evening session, so I'll get a few extra miles in. Whooopppeee

[David Godfrey]

rolex said:

No, im afraid the only solution is to move your house

serously going the longer way would be best + get you spotted posts

[bignips]

As well as oil temp, i use the gear change lights on the dash, which when cold come on at much lower revs, so stops you pushing it too early

[David Godfrey]

bignips said:

As well as oil temp, i use the gear change lights on the dash, which when cold come on at much lower revs, so stops you pushing it too early

Whilst I don't have a saggy I'd be suprised if it has logic to stop revs based on oil temp? Surely reving any engine especially a sp6 when the oil less than 60deg is not sympathetic..

[Targarama]

But its still only a flamin' car! So long as you don't thrash it on the journey it should be fine. I agree this is not an environment to which it is ideally suited, but its no big deal.

[tail slide]

IMO, from what I've learned over the years about engines and especially my S6, 4 miles is at least 10 miles too short, but OK occasionally of course.

The water temp you reached in the MR2 is a poor guide as water flowing through the cylinder head is heated much faster than the oil throughout the rest of the engine; the oil temp will still be very low and that's the real indicator of the engine temp. Takes a lot longer to warm a big engine, too. The S6 isn't the best design at circulating oil thoroughly it seems, and it flows a lot less when cold. It's pretty much a race engine, great when hot.

[bignips]

David Godfrey said:

bignips said:

As well as oil temp, i use the gear change lights on the dash, which when cold come on at much lower revs, so stops you pushing it too early

Whilst I don't have a saggy I'd be suprised if it has logic to stop revs based on oil temp? Surely reving any engine especially a sp6 when the oil less than 60deg is not sympathetic..

I'm very careful, as this car on appearance and sound doesn't need a thrashing until the engine sounds right, which is when the oil temp is between 60-70.
Having had my other car,a Rotary motor, for 8 years, i'm used to "don't do it until it's right" scenario.... don't want my engine to suffer prematurely.
My God, i'm sounding far too serious!!