Sooty exhaust -------- Explanation
Sooty exhaust -------- Explanation
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smithyl23

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357 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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A while back i was moaning bout a sooty exhaust on the T350, Well i've just spoken to the guy doing the service and full top end check. Turns out it was a collection of problems. The Lambda sensor had failed only to discover that these are currently very hard to get hold of (Any1 got any sources / ideas). Also an exhaust valve clearance on one of the cylinders had gone to nearly zero meaning that the valve was not closing also adding to the soot on the exhaust / back of the car, so effectively running on 5 cylinders. Only one shim needing replaced isn't the end of the world all other clearances were fine and no signs of wear on the cam lobes or followers.


So not as bad as i feared, just though i'd share this info.

rpa.janwell

1,653 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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Thanks for that - as per my post the other day about battery charging point shorting - this is the only public listing that I know of for help/advice for TVR which is easily searchable and accessible.

T40ORA

5,177 posts

249 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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smithyl23 said:
A while back i was moaning bout a sooty exhaust on the T350, Well i've just spoken to the guy doing the service and full top end check. Turns out it was a collection of problems. The Lambda sensor had failed only to discover that these are currently very hard to get hold of (Any1 got any sources / ideas). Also an exhaust valve clearance on one of the cylinders had gone to nearly zero meaning that the valve was not closing also adding to the soot on the exhaust / back of the car, so effectively running on 5 cylinders. Only one shim needing replaced isn't the end of the world all other clearances were fine and no signs of wear on the cam lobes or followers.


So not as bad as i feared, just though i'd share this info.
Do you know if tere is valve seat damage due to the non closure of the exhaust valve? This is what seems to have happened to mine. If the valve doesn't shut, the intense heat will affect the valve seat. Which will mean that the valve will never close properly, thus perpetuating and exacerbating the problem.

This is what I have - not necessarily what you have, but it's best to be aware and maybe ask the questions.

Of course, as your engine has been rebuilt your valve seats may be of sterner stuff.

smithyl23

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357 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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Interesting... I'll ask him about it but he didn't mention that problem. I don't suppose you'll know for sure without a head strip down. I suppose once he has fitted the lambda sensor and given it a tune up a further problem may become apparent but fingers crossed it should be ok.

hollowpockets

5,910 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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i had a very suity rear end, turned out to be ovalised valve guides

ALT

1,879 posts

312 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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hollowpockets said:
i had a very suity rear end
Sounds quite smart, was it a three-piece and double-breasted? wink

andyoleary

1,713 posts

243 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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hollowpockets said:
i had a very suity rear end, turned out to be ovalised valve guides
Graham - just out of interest, what led you to this? Was it an expensive/time consuming fix?

Cheers

Andy

hollowpockets

5,910 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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unsure of the cause, i noticed the suitey pipes and rear end getting worse and the engine appeared to be using oil at a fair rate, then came the sewing machine noise so i stopped driving it and had it taken away, im due to collect it tomorrow so will find out the full story, expensive - yes, it has been serviced, new clutch, diff bush and front discs at the same time so yeh im looking at 3.5k + from what i gather frown it may have been worse if i'd continued to drive it but im told no other components were damaged so just the labour and cost of the guides and a new gasket shouldnt be huge in itself.





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Edited by hollowpockets on Thursday 26th July 14:08

smithyl23

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357 posts

244 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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how did you know it was the valve guides without stripping down the head?

smithyl23

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357 posts

244 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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my bad, i guess they told you once they stripped it down silly

Conian

8,030 posts

231 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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Sooty exhaust eh? I think you should Sweep it clean before an MOT Centre Sues (matth)you.

Basil Brush

5,619 posts

293 months

Friday 27th July 2007
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I managed to get a lambda from Drivestyle HC in Harrogate a few days ago.

andyoleary

1,713 posts

243 months

Friday 27th July 2007
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Clever Trevor list a Raceproved version for £145, not sure if they have stock though,

Andy

smithyl23

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357 posts

244 months

Saturday 28th July 2007
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cheers, managed to get hold of one now.