What tyre question - Tamora

[David Godfrey]

Just realised that the Tamora rear tyres need replacing very soon. This gives leaves me pondering these choices.

• Replace them with T1R toyo's again
• Replace them with T1R toy's but go from 235 to bigger, if so whats best size to go to?
• Replace with another brand

The repalce with other brand concerns me slighly in how will it affect handling, will I regret it and be forced into replacing the front set too?

Currently I'm running the T1R Toyo's all the way round with the standard sizes below and on the 18" spiders.

Your thoughts would be apreciated

[smithyl23]

David Godfrey said:

Just realised that the Tamora rear tyres need replacing very soon. This gives leaves me pondering these choices.

• Replace them with T1R toyo's again
• Replace them with T1R toy's but go from 235 to bigger, if so whats best size to go to?
• Replace with another brand

The repalce with other brand concerns me slighly in how will it affect handling, will I regret it and be forced into replacing the front set too?

Currently I'm running the T1R Toyo's all the way round with the standard sizes below and on the 18" spiders.

Your thoughts would be apreciated

Mine came with eagle f1's all round, i changed the rears to Dunlop sp9000's as i got them for £65 each i couldn't refuse. didn't notice any difference what so ever in terms of grip. Just bought a new set of eagle f1's for the front. I tried both f1's and toyos on my renault r5 turbo and didn't notice any difference. The r5 had 285bhp through the front wheels, however when i tried r888's on the front i noticed a huge difference, no more spinning the wheels in 3rd they were like glue, you pull over and loads of small stones would be bedded in the tyre they get that soft.

What i'm saying is you will struggle to find a difference between the top brands in tyres, unless you were pushing them to the limits.
Hence go for the best price to be honest.

[Getsis]

I find the Toyo's fantastic in the dry but shte in wet, I think the car is too light at the back for these tyres if you drive in all weathers. I'm trying Eagles next time around.

[NTEL]

We run F1 Eagles all round on the Tam. Good in all conditions and last a lot longer than Toyos.

[MADT350]

i would say that F1 Eagles give you a little more confidence in the wet and are not bad in the dry either....if you never take the car out in the wet then put dry weather tyre as the main option, but for a happy medium i think you can't go wrong with F1 Eagles.....

[custardkid]

evo tyre test rated
1st - eagle f1
2nd - vredestein ultrac sessanta !

no toyos on test

[David Godfrey]

Thanks for comments so far, I run the Tamora as much as possible, dry, rain even when it snowed last year.

Looks like Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 are getting good feedback, so will probably give them a go.

Anyone know if this will make the handling suffer and would I be better replacing the fronts too?

Lastly just have to decide on the size, would you recomend moving up to 240's ? Would they rub, and would I look for 240 * 35 or 240 *40 ?

[nubbin.]

Not a Tamora any more, but I've gone for the Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas for the Merc. They have been getting universal praise, especially resistance to aquaplaning. They've won (or nearly won) just about every tyre test I've read, and after ringing round several tyre dealers, the general consensus seems to be they are really good. Some guys on the Merc forums have been saying how quiet and long lasting they are, with superb grip as well. Good price and the tread pattern looks brilliant as well.

I had both GSD3 and Proxes T1 on my Tamora - not much to choose between them.

Also worth noting that the Eagle F1 that won EVO's test was the new F1 Asymmetrical, not GSD3.

Edited by nubbin. on Tuesday 2nd October 08:53

[custardkid]

nubbin. said:

Also worth noting that the Eagle F1 that won EVO's test was the new F1 Asymmetrical, not GSD3.

they dont look as trick as the older GSD3

[FrancoTam]

I had the Toyos on my Tam when I bought it a year ago. It turned out that the set up wasn't right on the front, causing the inside of both front to go bear. I opted for the eagle F1's all around and have found them as good, but not any better in the dry but they are better in the wet. I also opted for the 245 width at the back and they don't scrub attal. Nearly went for the 255 as I've heard they don't scrub but got told that they would over hang the wheels a bit too much. I'm going to try the R888'S next to see what they are like but it won't be for a while yet.

I'd recomend the eagle F1's for an all round tyre but if you want two less than half worn Toyos for the rear until you decide, I've got two sat in the garage?

[jon-]

custardkid said:

evo tyre test rated
1st - eagle f1
2nd - vredestein ultrac sessanta !

no toyos on test

Rest of the list here

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre...

[Daftlad]

jon- said:

custardkid said:

evo tyre test rated
1st - eagle f1
2nd - vredestein ultrac sessanta !

no toyos on test

Rest of the list here

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre...

What an exciting tyre test for a performance magazine...

[hollowpockets]

iv got toyo's 225s on the front and 255's on the rear, the wider on the rear is noticablely grippier than the 235's in my opinion, iv always used toyos and find them great in the wet and dry, very predictable.

[andyoleary]

The Vredesteins certainly seem to be getting some good reviews and seem to be quite competitive in cost compared to Proxes T1R's - I just checked with eTyres and a couple of local distributors. I was planning to replace the T1S's on the rear of my Tuscan with T1R's but might opt for the Sessanta's all round. Will wait and decide in a couple of weeks,

Andy

[jon-]

Daftlad said:

jon- said:

custardkid said:

evo tyre test rated
1st - eagle f1
2nd - vredestein ultrac sessanta !

no toyos on test

Rest of the list here

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre...

What an exciting tyre test for a performance magazine...

Not sure I get the sarcasm... One of the larger influences on a cars handling and road holding is the black circles around the alloys, the fact they haven't done one in a few years surprises me more than this being included.

[Daftlad]

jon- said:

Daftlad said:

jon- said:

custardkid said:

evo tyre test rated
1st - eagle f1
2nd - vredestein ultrac sessanta !

no toyos on test

Rest of the list here

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre...

What an exciting tyre test for a performance magazine...

Not sure I get the sarcasm... One of the larger influences on a cars handling and road holding is the black circles around the alloys, the fact they haven't done one in a few years surprises me more than this being included.

I know reasonably well what the influences are on a cars road holding and handling.

I just find tests like these - well pretty much useless. They can never consider enough influences IMHO...car type, weight, use etc etc.

[rfisher]

So how long do F1s last?

My Tam has the original T1S Toyos on the front and I replaced the back with T1Rs when I bought it.

Car has done 18.5k and the front have only lost 1mm tread (6mm).

The rears are still full tread (around 7-8mm).

Well hard them tyres.

Plus I drive like a girl.

[jon-]

Daftlad said:

jon- said:

Daftlad said:

jon- said:

custardkid said:

evo tyre test rated
1st - eagle f1
2nd - vredestein ultrac sessanta !

no toyos on test

Rest of the list here

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre...

What an exciting tyre test for a performance magazine...

Not sure I get the sarcasm... One of the larger influences on a cars handling and road holding is the black circles around the alloys, the fact they haven't done one in a few years surprises me more than this being included.

I know reasonably well what the influences are on a cars road holding and handling.

I just find tests like these - well pretty much useless. They can never consider enough influences IMHO...car type, weight, use etc etc.

The tests give you a reasonable idea on the compound grip and firmness of construction of various brands back to back, I can't see how it could be called useless. Obviously how a tyre works with a particulars cars weight, power and geometry is another matter but it gives you a good starting point to make your decision.

[nubbin.]

My 255/40s have just arrived - Treadwear rating 280! Also 99Y load rating which means they should be stiffer and take higher cornering speeds....

If you want trick looks they are definitely the tyre to go for! I hope the fitter puts them on right as the rolling direction isn't marked.

[Hongkongfooi]

Anybody know what the r888's or yokohama cut slick types are like on a tam?