Why is this Saggy going so cheap??
Why is this Saggy going so cheap??
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bing

Original Poster:

1,946 posts

267 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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Hi Guys

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/377969.htm

Any ideas? Anyone know this car?

thanks

bing

KillerJim

972 posts

232 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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Mileage?

For £35k I would expect it 20k miles or more...

James

Moulder

1,648 posts

241 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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I don't know the car but they have two, and the other one is a thousand pounds less.

The only reason I can see when comparing them to the others is mileage, they both have approx. 23k when everything else in the classifieds has 5-15.

Maybe the "all Speed6's go bang by 25 thousand miles, though obviously I've never owned on myself" brigade are having an impact on the prices off "higher" mileage cars.

Seems like a good opportunity to me, especially as there is a choice at the price.

kmpowell

3,527 posts

257 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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It's the old press car, originally PF05 AMO.

It hung around in the PH classifieds for literally months (circa £33k) until DM bought it from the private seller (for a reported £30k) and marked it up by about £5k. DM then sold it, and by the looks of it they have bought it back again.

Be wary if you are thinking of buying it.

Edited by kmpowell on Monday 18th February 11:18

Pharoah

359 posts

298 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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The purple colour is a bit 'love it or hate it' as well - maybe not as sellable as more mainstream colours. I prefer the other Reflex Green one they have - it was owned by X8 Saggy? on here whom bought it from DM not that long ago.

JonRB

80,047 posts

301 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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The Sagaris does seem to be fairly mileage sensitive. The difference between my car and one less than a year younger and with 11k miles less mileage was over £9k

The dealer also have one a very similar age to mine, different colour though, with 10k miles less than mine and is £7k more than mine was.

Edit: I'm not sure why a 2005 car would have a rear-facing exhaust though, unless it were a retro-fit?

Edited by JonRB on Monday 18th February 18:12

bobd

973 posts

249 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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I am pretty sure that that car had a new engine in it,but not 100% ( speak to HB or PF). The laser blue press car definately had a new engine as some unsympathetic press people blew it up.

TGJR

750 posts

257 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Like most TVR's the Sagaris is sensitive to how the previous owner(s) has cared for the car, even on a car as new as 2005. This means that condition can vary considerably with regard to the engine (not just mileage related) and the general body, chassis and interior.

A well cared for car that has been owned by an enthusiast will always be more saleable than one that has just been driven, especially if press have had their mits on it! The plus side, however, is if you don't mind a car that is a bit more 'used' then you can save a few grand and take your chances (within reason!).

Gaffer

7,156 posts

306 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Looks like one of the former press cars but cant tell from the colour except its not purple paradise.

It had rear facing exhausts once mine had finished with them, the last sags had them.

Ignore KMPowell - he also commented that my car was tatty and to be avoided...!

Abosulte bks.

Go and look at the car in the flesh as the pics never do justice to either the conditon or the drive.

Claire

hallsie

2,185 posts

249 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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sorry Claire!
Ive gotta agree with km on this car!
Ive known of it prior to DM buying it and ive mailed the OP about it

Stu

Gaffer

7,156 posts

306 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Fair enough but the point I am making is dont take someones word on it - go and see for yourself

From my cars thread by KM:

I was feeling nosey on friday so I rang up and enquired about this car. It's for sale at £30k and will not under any circumstance be supplied with a warranty due to its 'Unique features' and 'battle scars' (their words not mine'.

In other words its VERY tatty and only really suitable for somebody's collection or if they had a bottomless pocket of cash to throw at it e.g complete respray in a new colour due to Candy Apple no longer being available, engine rebuild etc etc


My car isnt tatty, sure a couple ie 3 stone chips on the nose like all cars, unique features...its the development car so yes its not production standard.

I most certainly dont have a bottomless pit of cash to throw at my cars, I am dreading the rebuild time when it happens as I will be paying like everyone else, as for a re-spray, when the time comes I will figure out a way and yes Candy Apple is available.

The press/development cars had a tough life yes but they were looked after so dont take things at face value because if I had - I wouldnt have ended up with one extreamly good looking, amazing, reliable, jaw dropping car....and thats just the Chim smile

Thats all I have to say on the matter.

Claire

Edited by Gaffer on Tuesday 19th February 23:57

kmpowell

3,527 posts

257 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Gaffer said:
Ignore KMPowell - he also commented that my car was tatty and to be avoided...!

Abosulte bks.
If you read my post carefully (and not with your blinkered eyes) you will see that my actual words to the poster above was 'be wary', which is very sensible advice given the cars history. I didn't tell him to 'avoid' the purple car, the poster just needed to know it's not a run of the mill Sagaris and would need to go in with his eyes wide open if he was going to see it.

From your tiresome posts it is clear you have some sort of deluded grandure and/or insecurity complex, becasue you feel the need (even on the most unrelated threads) to bring up the history of your car(s). Yes you have a unique Sagaris, but get a life woman, it's really nothing special, and your boasting/bragging is boring.

Edited by kmpowell on Wednesday 20th February 10:02

bing

Original Poster:

1,946 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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kmpowell said:
Gaffer said:
Ignore KMPowell - he also commented that my car was tatty and to be avoided...!

Abosulte bks.
If you read my post carefully (and not with your blinkered eyes) you will see that my actual words to the poster above was 'be wary', which is very sensible advice given the cars history. I didn't tell him to 'avoid' the purple car, the poster just needed to know it's not a run of the mill Sagaris and would need to go in with his eyes wide open if he was going to see it.

From your tiresome posts it is clear you have some sort of deluded grandure and/or insecurity complex, becasue you feel the need (even on the most unrealted threads) to bring up the history of your car(s). Yes you have a unique Sagaris, but get a life woman, it's really nothing special, and your boasting/bragging is boring.

Edited by kmpowell on Wednesday 20th February 09:00
Guys guys!!! Come on calm down!!! Thanks to all for the info, I will try and get a look at the car in a couple of weeks if I get a chance as I may be in that part of town!!!

Does anyone here have or can point me in the direction of a 'points to look out for when buying a second hand saggy' list, also is there a list of common issues problems that need to be sorted on these cars.

Oh and where can these be serviced at a reasonable price in the London area, I don't mind travelling for a decent service just NOT hundreds of miles!!!

Once again thanks!!!

hallsie

2,185 posts

249 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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i still love 'candy' tho smile

Stu

barefoot

1,050 posts

313 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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I think Gaffer deserves a little bit more respect than that. She was in a pretty unique position within TVR if you know her history, and if you have read most of her posts and or know her she is def not deluded or I very much doubt insecure!

kmpowell

3,527 posts

257 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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barefoot said:
I think Gaffer deserves a little bit more respect than that. She was in a pretty unique position within TVR if you know her history
I know full well her 'history', but following her unwarranted post, she will be getting no 'respect' from me. I made a perfectly valid point about the purple car which could save the potential owner alot of heartache and open wallet surgery. That is what forums are for, and I make no apology for advising the poster to tread with caution.

It is not my problem she chose to take it personally, ignoring what I ACTUALLY wrote and then go on a sanctimonious scribble against me which included taking my past posts out of context. The fact she has to go on and on about her cars in pretty much every post she makes, suggests something to me, however you can make your own mind up about why that is...

Respect is earned, it's not automatic due to given circumstances.

Edited by kmpowell on Wednesday 20th February 14:43

Catherine197

9,586 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Hi Kevin, nice to see you are still alive.

barefoot

1,050 posts

313 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Catherine197 do I know you? Funny you should say that I am at my daughters in the States and had a jet ski accident 3 weeks ago broke my sternum 4 ribs damaged my liver and punctured a lung! Can't fly till lung has healed so sat bored sunbathing and praying to god I don't have to cough or sneeze!

Catherine197

9,586 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Sorry Barefoot I meant Mr Powell.

kmpowell

3,527 posts

257 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Catherine197 said:
Hi Kevin, nice to see you are still alive.
Hi Catherine. wavey