T350 Handling Issues?
T350 Handling Issues?
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justin220

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5,744 posts

233 months

Monday 2nd June 2008
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I have recently went from an Exige to a T350C and I know I can't expect as good handling as the Lotus, but i'm really struggling with the T350, any one else notice this? (maybe came from a lotus)

Maybe my one just needs a geo check?

hollowpockets

5,910 posts

245 months

Monday 2nd June 2008
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yeh get the geo checked and make sure the tyre pressures are all around 24psi, tyre pressures seem to affect the handling quite a bit on these, i actually run mine at 20psi but most go for 22-24psi.

Failing that a set of nitrons or bilsteins would do the trick.

Bear in mind the steering is very quick and takes time to get used to, i see your also from the mighty Deen, If your planning to go on the run over the Cairn'o'mount on saturday i'll be able have a chat with you about it/take you for a burn in my T350, i have poly bushes all round and nitrons fitted.


dickieandjulie

1,068 posts

286 months

Monday 2nd June 2008
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I also had 'issues' with my Tam. The rear springs had sagged and the front dampers leaked in addition to tyre pressures being all over the place when I got it.

Replaced the dampers with Intrax, amazing difference. Thoroughly recommend.

justin220

Original Poster:

5,744 posts

233 months

Monday 2nd June 2008
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hollowpockets - PM'd..

Cheers for the help, i will get the tyre pressures checked tonight, maybe they are just slightly down

jamie g

516 posts

245 months

Monday 2nd June 2008
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Running 24 or less psi in the tyres may help but the tyre won't like it. You'll get uneven wear and grip will be reduced.
Obviously get the geo checked and fit some michelin PS2's if you're using it for the road.

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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jamie g said:
Running 24 or less psi in the tyres may help but the tyre won't like it. You'll get uneven wear and grip will be reduced.
Obviously get the geo checked and fit some michelin PS2's if you're using it for the road.
Why do you suggest that running 24psi is sub-optimal for grip or a problem with tyre wear? What pressure would you suggest?

m999psw

266 posts

227 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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Hi, when I bought my T350 6 months ago I thought the ride was great in comparison to my Chimeara.
After a few drives down B roads I changed my mind as I found it difficult to make it go where I wanted it to. So after reading the various posts I bought and fitted a set of Nitrons and had them set up a couple of weeks ago during the service. When I picked it up it was much much better but still a bit harsh. I checked the tyre pressures just to make sure they were at 24 psi as per normal but found the dealer had put them back to 28 psi. 24 psi back in and the ride is now perfect.

Regards
Paul

jamie g

516 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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28 psi on the front would be good but it will be a bh to drive if you've got goodyear f1's.
24 is a good compromise but they'll get worn on the edges of the tread(due to under inflation). You'll end up changing them even though the middle tread is still meaty.
What tyres are people buying? goodyears seem a poor choice for a T350.

hollowpockets

5,910 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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iv always used toyo t1's and t1'r and always run them 20-22psi, never had the uneven tyre wear and it feels more planted.

Targarama

14,785 posts

312 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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What tosh -24psi is fine. As you can see, some run at less. Dealers love to stick 26-28 PSI (depending on which factory data they believe is best). Owners all say 24.

My old Chimaera ran 22 front, 24 rear for 40+k miles with even wear. My T350 runs 24psi all round. Fronts are original at 16k miles, rears lasted 12k with totally even wear. I can understand a cheaper tyre not liking low pressure, but the standard F1s are performance tyres with appropriate sidewalls.

Targarama

14,785 posts

312 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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jamie g said:
goodyears seem a poor choice for a T350.
Why? Goodyear F1s and Toyo Proxies both work great.

Do you own a TVR?

Mr John

574 posts

278 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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T350 handling is to put it bluntly crap, compared to the Lotus.
I had 2 before the TVR and it will never be a patch on the Lotus.
You can make it better, geometry checked and adjusted, different suspension, tyre pressures etc, but it will never be as good as your Exige. I am still not totally happy with mine.
TVR have their strong points ie noise, performance, but the Lotus's are far superior in the handling and ride department.

jamie g

516 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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If those run flat tyres become available you could by those. From what people are saying it should improve the feel of the caridea
Are people seriously running as low as 20psi to make there cars manageable. You'll end up wearing the name off the side wallbiggrin

Targarama

14,785 posts

312 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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jamie g said:
If those run flat tyres become available you could by those. From what people are saying it should improve the feel of the caridea
Are people seriously running as low as 20psi to make there cars manageable. You'll end up wearing the name off the side wallbiggrin
You obviously know better than the rest of us. So what, in your experience is the best tyre and the best pressure?

hollowpockets

5,910 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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jamie g said:
If those run flat tyres become available you could by those. From what people are saying it should improve the feel of the caridea
Are people seriously running as low as 20psi to make there cars manageable. You'll end up wearing the name off the side wallbiggrin
If you were to do the calculations you would find that even a pressure as low as 20psi can support a 1100kg T350 no problem, without ruining the sidewalls, its not to make the car managable, it makes it more compliant on rough stty roads, roads that should be in far better condition, considering the tax we pay for them!

jamie g

516 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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Come on you don't need to do calculations to work out less pressure equals a spongy less responsive feel. A T350 is a nicely precise and sharp steering car that should be enjoyed and not tuned out by clumbsily reduced tyre pressures.

Is anyone happy with 28 psi? What about the owners with different susupension/wheels?


TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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jamie g said:
Come on you don't need to do calculations to work out less pressure equals a spongy less responsive feel. A T350 is a nicely precise and sharp steering car that should be enjoyed and not tuned out by clumbsily reduced tyre pressures.

Is anyone happy with 28 psi? What about the owners with different susupension/wheels?
Jamie,
A T350 with 18" wheels at 28 psi, is a nightmare - almost like driving on ice. A 35 profile tyre does not need high pressures to create a stiff sidewall, the tryes in question already have relatively stiff walls.

I was at a track day last week running 18,5 psi with R888 tyres and I can assure you, they were no where near running onto the wall.

Not sure what your experience is with tyres, or with TVRs but there is a alot of evidence to suggest with the tyres mentioned here, 24 psi is pretty much on the button. It maybe you're a secret tyre bod, if so why not come clean and give us the reasons why it should be better at 28psi?

So far your posts are based around what you would expect to happen but have and you have no experience to suggest otherwise and seem unwilling to listen to wht some quite knowledgable owners give as feed back.

hollowpockets

5,910 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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jamie g said:
Come on you don't need to do calculations to work out less pressure equals a spongy less responsive feel. A T350 is a nicely precise and sharp steering car that should be enjoyed and not tuned out by clumbsily reduced tyre pressures.

Is anyone happy with 28 psi? What about the owners with different susupension/wheels?
clumbsily reduced tyre pressure? wobble

I have tried my T350 with the spider wheels, SP12's, different width's and profile's of tyres, on the standard set up and now with the nitrons, also done half a dozen trackdays in various tempratures and tried pressures from 18-28 psi, 28psi will send an inexperienced T350 driver backwards or darting off into a field when things get wet, 22-24psi is all thats needed believe it or not. Yes the car remains very precise and sharp.

You clearly have little or no experience in these motors

Edited by hollowpockets on Tuesday 3rd June 15:15

jamie g

516 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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Ok apologies to all, maybe I have over stepped the mark(not sure where though)
Is this a touchy subject or something?

I'm not saying people are wrong for their settings, I was just hoping to hear someone with some different experiences.

So do the sp12 and nitrons improve things noticable.(on B roads)

ears

Edited by jamie g on Tuesday 3rd June 15:57

justin220

Original Poster:

5,744 posts

233 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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Mr John said:
T350 handling is to put it bluntly crap, compared to the Lotus.
I had 2 before the TVR and it will never be a patch on the Lotus.
You can make it better, geometry checked and adjusted, different suspension, tyre pressures etc, but it will never be as good as your Exige. I am still not totally happy with mine.
TVR have their strong points ie noise, performance, but the Lotus's are far superior in the handling and ride department.
Ah i did wonder this.. The car is running SP12 wheels just now, but it just seems like there is ALOT of body roll, maybe its just something to get used to