3.91 Diff fitted to Sagaris - yeehah!
3.91 Diff fitted to Sagaris - yeehah!
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Pixi

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58 posts

263 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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Well, I got the Sag back with the 3.46 in the bin and the 3.91 in. I'd always felt the engine and transmission were not quite gelling with the 3.46 diff - did not feel as fluid as my Chimaera (albeit a different engine).

So picked it up today from Dreadnought TVR, raining (of course). Pootled in traffic, tricked up STI scooby with all the body kit add-ons right up my tail, a steep slip road opens up, I hit the throttle (about 80-90% as its still running in) - and guess what.......

...... we left him for dead! 150m ahead at the top of the slip road. It is so much better than the old diff - it accelerates much more cleanly, more responsive, and the engine and transmission now seem to meld together instead of being at odds with each other. It obviously does rev higher (2,950rpm @ 80mph) - cant remember what it did before but it is not noticeably noisier anyway - it was never the quietest car anyway.

So all in all after one day its a brilliant mod and if you got a 3.46 diff in you must do it. Not sure of the difference between the 3.76 and 3.91 (and I really don't care to be honest) but for me, for my roads and for my car it is truly brilliant - its transformed and completed the car.

Next step is Ohlins all round, then adjust the ride height to stop the front grounding out and I'll be in Saggy heaven.

I'll give you more updates with RPM's fuel economy etc all the boring stuff + seat of the pants accelerometer readings of course.

Toodle pip

Tangoed

924 posts

244 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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It makes a big difference, enjoy it woohoo

T450t

414 posts

220 months

Thursday 12th March 2009
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If you have a 3.9 diff a must is a CR box with a ATB LSD.

tail slide

2,169 posts

276 months

Saturday 14th March 2009
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T450t said:
If you have a 3.9 diff a must is a CR box with a ATB LSD.
yes What he said.


Oneday

85 posts

223 months

Monday 16th March 2009
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I have asked the questions and the investigation is underway.

Will report back when I have my CR box and 3.91.

geordieexpat

482 posts

221 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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All

Got mine fitted tio the Sag in Feb (3.91diff and c/r box) did the 1000miles, got them drained and checked, new oil.

The car feels more secure on the road, I have 19" alloys on it as well

Next is changing the suspension and springs (maybe) and thinking about the slats opening

The car is black so not sure if the slats will stand out unless I add a touch of colour

To be honest I love driving the car wherever and whatever I do with it from 30mph to 70mph and beyond!

Derrick

astonman

839 posts

239 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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What kind of cost are you looking at for 3.91 diff with new quaife diff and close ratio box ( parts labour plus vat etc)?rolleyes

geordieexpat

482 posts

221 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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not much change from £2500

d18mca

314 posts

226 months

Thursday 26th March 2009
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Could any Sag drivers confirm RPM-speed ratios for the different diffs.
I am asking because my diff is whining and I will neeed to replace it.
My problem is that I have a CR box and what I thought was a 3.4 diff ,but looking at the figures qouted for 80 mph at 2950,my car shows 3000 RPM for 80.
I have 3.4 written on the casing,but perhaps the internals were changed.
Anybody confirm varous diffs/RPM at80 for comparison please.
Thanks
Davy mac

VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

236 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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d18mca said:
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Could any Sag drivers confirm RPM-speed ratios for the different diffs.
Thanks
Davy mac
Here we go!



CLICK HERE for Pre-populated Excel table
See the tabs at the bottom of the table with various options

G wink

Pixi

Original Poster:

58 posts

263 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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I realised that in my excitement I put the wrong rpm down at 80 mph - I'll check it and let you know. I was too obviously busy giggling to pay proper attention oops

VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

236 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Pixi said:
I put the wrong rpm down at 80 mph - I'll check it and let you know.
71MPH ? @ 3000RPM in 5th

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d18mca

314 posts

226 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Thanks Graham.

Had a look.I quite like the set up as it stands for cruising,as I will be doing a European trip this year,but I may go for the compromise 3.7.The FFFengine is extremely quiet so the 3.9 shouldn't be too unbearable with 71 @3000rpm.I'll decide soon.
I took your advice re the brakes and will be using the ds25000when changing them next month.
Thanks
Davy mac

VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

236 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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d18mca said:
I took your advice re the brakes and will be using the ds25000when changing them next month.
Thanks
Davy mac
Be aware that they soon dirty the wheels and may squeal until you get them warm


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d18mca

314 posts

226 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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Cheers Graham.

yanmar

276 posts

281 months

Friday 27th March 2009
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always thought that :- 3.4 = 28mph----3.7=25mph----3.9=22mph all at 1000 rpm

Pixi

Original Poster:

58 posts

263 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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Checked the RPM vs road speed - in 5th gear with 3.91 diff:

80 mph = 3,400rpm

50 mph = 2,100 rpm

tuscan_al

4,112 posts

243 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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Can I bump this, as I'm looking into swapping diffs out while I'm doing the top mount.

Is this going to be a nightmare to do basically, in cost terms..

GT TVR

1,627 posts

311 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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yanmar said:
always thought that :- 3.4 = 28mph----3.7=25mph----3.9=22mph all at 1000 rpm
Mine does about 24 mph/1000 revs op the speedo in fifth gear (CR box and 3.91 diff). Cruise is quite relaxed up to 110 mph.

D14 AYS

3,696 posts

239 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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tuscan_al said:
Can I bump this, as I'm looking into swapping diffs out while I'm doing the top mount.

Is this going to be a nightmare to do basically, in cost terms..
I am also looking into swapping to the 3.91 diff,what money are we talking ears