ARB drop links
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m999psw

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266 posts

227 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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Anybody fitted the SH ones to a T350? If you have what do you think?

Paul

keirv6

66 posts

273 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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Ihave seem ok but they did come loose once they pulled though the washer

tail slide

2,169 posts

276 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Fronts work well, don't bother with rears; last thing a T350 needs is a stiffer rear end under roll. wink

puckrup

472 posts

229 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Fitted front and rear to Sagaris last month. Excellent. They will not stiffen suspension on bit just give a better connection to ARB over stock item. No wear and tear on rubber bushes, rose joints used instead. Great piece of engineering plus they look good! smile

Neil

Whitey

2,508 posts

313 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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keirv6 said:
Ihave seem ok but they did come loose once they pulled though the washer
Did you discuss this with SH ?

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Whitey said:
keirv6 said:
Ihave seem ok but they did come loose once they pulled though the washer
Did you discuss this with SH ?
Yes. We've exchanged emails on this yesterday. I used a small ally collar on the initial ones and these tended to distort if too much effort was applied. These have been replaced with a special spring washer which does a better job and doesn't distort. Keir used a different washer that does the same job. Apart from that, he seems to be really pleased.

Edited by shpub on Tuesday 14th April 18:21

m999psw

Original Poster:

266 posts

227 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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tail slide said:
Fronts work well, don't bother with rears; last thing a T350 needs is a stiffer rear end under roll. wink
Hi,
The reason I was having a look was that I have fitted Nitrons which are set to a pretty soft point to improve the ride on the B roads around here. But I do get a fair amount of roll through the bends which I had hoped could be made better without loosing the softer ride.
It is due its service in a couple of weeks so I thought I could make the changes now before the geo is checked.

Paul

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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The ARB drop links will improve the roll as the standard droplinks spend most of their time compressing rubber bushes rather than applying the anti roll force. As a result the shocks and springs spend a lot of time compensating for the ARB deficiencies which is why the suspension is often quite hard. Softening the suspension will improve the ride quality but at the expense of roll.

As many of my customers have been able to soften their suspension after fitting the droplinks without increasing the roll, I would expect them do to the same in your case.

Whitey

2,508 posts

313 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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shpub said:
Whitey said:
keirv6 said:
Ihave seem ok but they did come loose once they pulled though the washer
Did you discuss this with SH ?
Yes. We've exchanged emails on this yesterday. I used a small ally collar on the initial ones and these tended to distort if too much effort was applied. These have been replaced with a special spring washer which does a better job and doesn't distort. Keir used a different washer that does the same job. Apart from that, he seems to be really pleased.

Edited by shpub on Tuesday 14th April 18:21
Great stuff, I will be buying some soon and I remembered you sorting out the same issue quickly and professionally for a Cerb owner, so I'm glad others have had the same service and I can buy them from you without any worries.


tail slide

2,169 posts

276 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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m999psw said:
tail slide said:
Fronts work well, don't bother with rears; last thing a T350 needs is a stiffer rear end under roll. wink
Hi,
The reason I was having a look was that I have fitted Nitrons which are set to a pretty soft point to improve the ride on the B roads around here. But I do get a fair amount of roll through the bends which I had hoped could be made better without loosing the softer ride.
It is due its service in a couple of weeks so I thought I could make the changes now before the geo is checked.

Paul
The front links should help then, as Steve says, and on mine have proved effective and durable on the track too. thumbup

The standard T350/Tamora springs are soft for a TVR (the Sag's are much firmer) but with relatively stiff a/r bars front and rear, so it's already a fair way towards what you're aiming for.

But after trying the solid ARB links on the rear, though they may improve matters on other TVR models with similar suspension, my personal conclusion after testing on road & track is they aren't helpful on the T350/Tamora setup, only because the rear a/r bar is already stiffer than most and replacing the soft bushes with solids just makes the rear slightly more snappy.

Edited by tail slide on Wednesday 15th April 20:17

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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..and what is your opinion on a Cerbera ARB? smile

Hope you had fun in it at Croft, not sure if you're aware of this - but im 99% sure you smashed the Cerbera road-tyre record there, I cant find the exact time Matt set, but I think it was 97 or 96seconds... wink

spitfire4v8

4,025 posts

210 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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Was paul driving jeff's cerbie at croft ben? email me if you have news smile

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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No news, Paul double drove the Cerbera with Dad and gave us some feedback for improvements. I think the rear anti-roll bar is going to be disconnected shortly as a result. thumbup

Its given us an idea of just how much pace the car has, and how much we'll need to learn to get to Pauls level of driving ability. biggrin He did say the Cerb was a 'good drift car' before croft. hehe

I havent yet had the full de-brief of how it performed on track, but the time was pretty impressive. smile

tail slide

2,169 posts

276 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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BCA said:
No news, Paul double drove the Cerbera with Dad and gave us some feedback for improvements. I think the rear anti-roll bar is going to be disconnected shortly as a result. thumbup

Its given us an idea of just how much pace the car has, and how much we'll need to learn to get to Pauls level of driving ability. biggrin He did say the Cerb was a 'good drift car' before croft. hehe

I havent yet had the full de-brief of how it performed on track, but the time was pretty impressive. smile
Was fun, and very good of Jeff to share. You're too kind about skill - more a lack of imagination on fast sections (where the road tyres gave precious little grip i have to say) elsewhere the datalogger showed our times were v. similar.

On Cerbie, if springs are uprated as Jeff's considering, the rear arb may be the right comparative rate (but Jools is the expert).

... wandered off topic here a bit I guess tumbleweed

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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I dont think we'll go any stiffer on the front, dads drive back on the new damper settings convinced him to wind them all back off as soft as possible for the commute! hehe

We'll raise the front slightly and try without a rear ARB in a few weeks. smile