Sagaris without air-con
Sagaris without air-con
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Biggriff

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2,312 posts

313 months

Monday 29th June 2009
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Have an opportunity to buy a Sagaris. Ideal colour, but no aircon. An issue or not?


Zippee

14,125 posts

263 months

Monday 29th June 2009
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IMHO I wouldn't! The heatsoak into the cabin from the S6 is quite intense.
I own a T350 targa and even with the roof panels off the cabin heat can be too much.

SEN 18

1,247 posts

241 months

Monday 29th June 2009
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Biggriff said:
Have an opportunity to buy a Sagaris. Ideal colour, but no aircon. An issue or not?
I thought all Sags came with A/C!If you like sitting in an oven then buy it.

Skipe

616 posts

224 months

Monday 29th June 2009
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If you live somewhere without any traffic or roadworks then do it! However, if you do could you let me know where and I'm moving there! Seriously, as Zippee said air con is a must, my T350 runs very hot indeed and the air con is actually pretty good....

You may be able to get the price down and fit one of course?

D14 AYS

3,696 posts

239 months

Monday 29th June 2009
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The heat soak is no where near as bad in the later cars IMO, I would say with the Sag you do need AC.

SpeedBuzz

560 posts

240 months

Monday 29th June 2009
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Yep, i would say it is a must, just got mine fixed and boy was i missing it.
I thought all Sags had air-con fitted? confused

bogie

17,073 posts

301 months

Monday 29th June 2009
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it was an option ...but who buys a £50K car and then scrimps on the few hundred quid for aircon?!

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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bogie said:
it was an option ...but who buys a £50K car and then scrimps on the few hundred quid for aircon?!
You may be suprised ....

It was a 2K option, its heavy and it does not perform well. Try a search on the AC problems on PH.

A Sag is a fun car for many and a fun car with windows.

I've owned a T350C and a Sagaris, both without AC (owned a Sag with also). Sorry to fly in the face of the majority, but I would suggest its not essential.

Also consider the cost the car is being advertised at vs those with AC. I'm sure there will be sufficient difference in the price to allow the retro fitting of AC that actuallly performs rather than TVR AC.

T450t

414 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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When I had my engine upgraded I never bothered putting the air con back in. Its not an accessory that I would call essential when you weigh up the pro's ans con's. I guess its every one to there own though. For me its BHP per tonne.

TGJR

750 posts

257 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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I can see both sides of this one and it depends on use. A track day in April - no aircon required (mine had it and used to spit water out of the vents at you mid lap!). A road trip to Le Mans in hot June - I'd have it thanks, a trickle or not!

bogie

17,073 posts

301 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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ok, so thats the other side of the coin..I cant remember it being that much when we bought our Sag, and the Tuscan had it too...never had any problems

Im afraid im one of these moaning British people that dosent like hot weather, Ive have 1 car without it since Ive been driving (an Elise) and that was terrible the year I got caught on the way to LeMans in 30deg heat !

Me and the GF do about 30K miles a year and use all our cars daily - so would never buy one without it....nothing worse that turning up at a clients on a hot summers day, and having to put a shirt and tie on in the carpark, as its too hot to travel in the car in one LOL smile

blackiepaul

1,973 posts

223 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Problem is at sale time, I have never seen a post saying "Sag with aircon" is this a issue?

If there are two next to each other one wiith and one without I would buy the one with. With the right settings and TLC the aircon in a Sag is very good.

Targarama

14,784 posts

312 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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The two racers on here say they don't need it - probably right if the car is used for open road blasts or on the track. However, anyone looking to drive to work on a wet day (misting) or a day like today really needs aircon. Not to mention trying to get your lady to sit in the passenger seat, esp with the common black leather interior. My aircon worked fine for the 5 years I owned my T350, soo much more civilised than my old Chimaera (aircon option on the Chimaera/Griffith was a waste of time).

It can be retro-fitted for around the original option cost (£2k).

ben d

205 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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I've got a Tuscan 2S with air con and have just bought a Sag without it. To be honest, the air con is so appallingly bad that in any semblance of heat it just blows hot air at you. I never, ever use it. If it's hot, put the windows down.

An aftermarket aircon unit, maybe if possible, but the factory one - no thanks.

Targarama

14,784 posts

312 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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ben d said:
I've got a Tuscan 2S with air con and have just bought a Sag without it. To be honest, the air con is so appallingly bad that in any semblance of heat it just blows hot air at you. I never, ever use it. If it's hot, put the windows down.

An aftermarket aircon unit, maybe if possible, but the factory one - no thanks.
Ben - your aircon obviously needed fixing (or installing correctly in the first place knowing TVR). Mine worked so well and I had to turn it off when it got too chilly, it even iced up the heater control unit which lives under the dash in line with the cool air (no warm/cool air mixing on these cars).

Lensey

2,526 posts

312 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Targarama said:
ben d said:
I've got a Tuscan 2S with air con and have just bought a Sag without it. To be honest, the air con is so appallingly bad that in any semblance of heat it just blows hot air at you. I never, ever use it. If it's hot, put the windows down.

An aftermarket aircon unit, maybe if possible, but the factory one - no thanks.
Ben - your aircon obviously needed fixing (or installing correctly in the first place knowing TVR). Mine worked so well and I had to turn it off when it got too chilly, it even iced up the heater control unit which lives under the dash in line with the cool air (no warm/cool air mixing on these cars).
Gotta say mine is brilliant, so cold I have to turn it off and warm up again.

900T-R

20,406 posts

286 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Targarama said:
(no warm/cool air mixing on these cars).
A distinct stream of ice cold air IMO is worse than a uniformly warm/hot environment - can't abide that at all.

Gaffer

7,156 posts

306 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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No aircon on Candy, did a trip to LeMans and back and it was fine, just the windows open.

Only issue is the usual gearstick/handbrake area (mine is painted so is a bit of a shock when you lean your arm on it..!).

You can get it retro fitted by Power - not sure of the cost.

Claire

KillerJim

972 posts

232 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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I feel that Air-con is fairly essential, I`ve driven lately with the air-con on most of the time (again it needs re-gassed to get the ice-chiller effect) but the heat in the cabin is too much for me..

But again its a fairly personal thing, some people can stick the higher temps without bursting into sweat but I can`t..

J

Rock Studly

82 posts

241 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Got to have it. How else are you going to control yourself without an icy blast into your groin area!!