Pros and Cons of a TVR T350c & Porsche 996 Turbo??
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I was in the same conundrum but personally think the opposite, the 996 will be more expensive to run (properly anyway!) and won't hold it's value as well either. T350's are steadily creeping up in value IMHO. But more importantly the t350 is far more involving to drive and a far greater event too. The 996 for me was too much like a run of the mill barge, albeit a fast one! The rarity factor makes the t350 more appealing too.
If they're the same price then the Porsche is going to have done a lot more miles. Depreciation will be much of a muchness, as will servicing/consumables. TVR may even be more reliable given its much lower mileage. More than anything else I would picture yourself pulling up at a petrol station in each of them and seeing the other car stop next to you. How would you feel as you looked at the other car? Leather, colour, individuality vs ruthless efficiency. Depends what floats your boat.
The Porsche will cost more to buy but should be more reliable in the long run and won't need as much servicing and will probably hold it's value better??
The Porsche will cost more: Yes for sure
Should be more reliable: Mmmmm Dont know about that
wont need as much servicing: Oh yes it will
It will hold it's value better than a T350: No it won't pound for pound.
The Porsche will cost more: Yes for sure
Should be more reliable: Mmmmm Dont know about that
wont need as much servicing: Oh yes it will
It will hold it's value better than a T350: No it won't pound for pound.
Edited by T450t on Thursday 31st December 19:38
Hi Cliff
Read your profile and you will find your answer "Porsche or TVR" !!! You really will enjoy the TVR experience and as long as you look carefully in to the car you buy (as in previous service history) servicing will be on par/cheaper to the Porsche.
I would advise you to get a good test drive in a T350, they are a great car and the occation driving makes to me is far more than a 996 gives.
Paul
Read your profile and you will find your answer "Porsche or TVR" !!! You really will enjoy the TVR experience and as long as you look carefully in to the car you buy (as in previous service history) servicing will be on par/cheaper to the Porsche.
I would advise you to get a good test drive in a T350, they are a great car and the occation driving makes to me is far more than a 996 gives.
Paul
The Porsche will cost more: Yes for sure Agree
Should be more reliable: Mmmmm Dont know about that It will be
wont need as much servicing: Oh yes it willOh no it won't
It will hold it's value better than a T350: No it won't pound for pound.Sorry, I don't have a crystal ball
As per my questions to you in the Porsche forum...the answer to "which car" depends very much on what you are looking for...Questions you have not answered!
Should be more reliable: Mmmmm Dont know about that It will be
wont need as much servicing: Oh yes it willOh no it won't
It will hold it's value better than a T350: No it won't pound for pound.Sorry, I don't have a crystal ball
As per my questions to you in the Porsche forum...the answer to "which car" depends very much on what you are looking for...Questions you have not answered!
Edited by UpTheIron on Thursday 31st December 20:19
UpTheIron said:
The Porsche will cost more: Yes for sure Agree
Should be more reliable: Mmmmm Dont know about that It will be
wont need as much servicing: Oh yes it willOh no it won't
It will hold it's value better than a T350: No it won't pound for pound.Sorry, I don't have a crystal ball
As per my questions to you in the Porsche forum...the answer to "which car" depends very much on what you are looking for...Questions you have not answered!
I think the servicing prediction falls into the crystal ball category too. A few years ago I looked into the running costs of a Boxster and got a bit of a shock. I think rather than saying the servicing will be more/less expensive I think it would be better to say the servicing will be much the same, but the TVR will probably need some regular tweaking while the 911 should just keep going. Whether that statement holds true for a high mileage, 10 year old 911 is a different matter. Should be more reliable: Mmmmm Dont know about that It will be
wont need as much servicing: Oh yes it willOh no it won't
It will hold it's value better than a T350: No it won't pound for pound.Sorry, I don't have a crystal ball
As per my questions to you in the Porsche forum...the answer to "which car" depends very much on what you are looking for...Questions you have not answered!
Edited by UpTheIron on Thursday 31st December 20:19
SonicHedgeHog said:
I think the servicing prediction falls into the crystal ball category too. A few years ago I looked into the running costs of a Boxster and got a bit of a shock. I think rather than saying the servicing will be more/less expensive I think it would be better to say the servicing will be much the same, but the TVR will probably need some regular tweaking while the 911 should just keep going. Whether that statement holds true for a high mileage, 10 year old 911 is a different matter.
I do agree with what your saying, perhaps for some clarification..."servicing" will be far cheaper on the Porsche. Breakdowns should be fewer and further between, BUT when a 996TT goes bang it is likely to cost more...BUT it is much less likely too.I'm neutral on this subject BTW, I've got a 996TT and a Tuscan S.
IMHO it comes down to what the guy wants the car for...without knowing this it is near impossible to advise. Hardcore weekend toy or awesome daily driver?
The T350 will be cheeper to buy and service properly.
As for how they drive, the 911 is a smoother, more refined with better road manners. However, due to its flat torque curve, the 911 doesn't feel all that fast. In fact, they actually feel rather slow.
The T350 is quicker but feels MUCH quicker on the road.
Porsche more forgiving, TVR more fun.
For me, if it were an every day car, I'd take the Porsche. As second car / toy, I'd take the T350 simply for the tingle it sends down the back of your neck when you drive it - every drive is an event.
L33
As for how they drive, the 911 is a smoother, more refined with better road manners. However, due to its flat torque curve, the 911 doesn't feel all that fast. In fact, they actually feel rather slow.
The T350 is quicker but feels MUCH quicker on the road.
Porsche more forgiving, TVR more fun.
For me, if it were an every day car, I'd take the Porsche. As second car / toy, I'd take the T350 simply for the tingle it sends down the back of your neck when you drive it - every drive is an event.
L33
Well which ever car I choose it will be my main car, I can't afford to have 2 cars.
However I don't drive everyday so will only really use it at weekends and evening driving to the gf's house etc.
I only drive about 6k miles a year maybe a bit less so if I could service the car once a year and not have to worry about anything in between I'd be happy.
Obvioulsy you can't plan for the unexpected but which would be less likely to need less work in between?
However I don't drive everyday so will only really use it at weekends and evening driving to the gf's house etc.
I only drive about 6k miles a year maybe a bit less so if I could service the car once a year and not have to worry about anything in between I'd be happy.
Obvioulsy you can't plan for the unexpected but which would be less likely to need less work in between?
We were in the same boat not long ago, we were thinking TVR, 996 turbo X50, RS4 etc, we were thinking 996 because its fast and useable etc but we would have to take a warrenty each year as the car would be expensive to repair if anything went wrong, the other thing that we thought about was 911's get replaced each year with a better model and thus making the older models less special and constantly pushing prices down. With TVR no more and limited cars out there we thought that they would hold there value better if we needed to sell, we picked a TVR as we felt it was alot more special and it has not dissapointed, its a joy to own as there are so few around.my pro's for TVR are: it looks awesome inside and out, sounds awesome, cheaper to run?, rare, hold its money better.pro's for 911; safe option, more useable everyday, less atttention, great all round car
Diablos-666 said:
Well which ever car I choose it will be my main car, I can't afford to have 2 cars.
However I don't drive everyday so will only really use it at weekends and evening driving to the gf's house etc.
I only drive about 6k miles a year maybe a bit less so if I could service the car once a year and not have to worry about anything in between I'd be happy.
Obvioulsy you can't plan for the unexpected but which would be less likely to need less work in between?
Take a TVR for a test drive. You will either love it or hate it. Your decision will be made very quickly.However I don't drive everyday so will only really use it at weekends and evening driving to the gf's house etc.
I only drive about 6k miles a year maybe a bit less so if I could service the car once a year and not have to worry about anything in between I'd be happy.
Obvioulsy you can't plan for the unexpected but which would be less likely to need less work in between?
The 911 is a great car, the TVR is an event.
Diablos-666 said:
Obvioulsy you can't plan for the unexpected but which would be less likely to need less work in between?
What's your budget. An old, leggy 911 Turbo is a potential money pit. I have looked at the classifieds but I would say you could get a nice year old supermini and a T350 for the price of a decent 911 Turbo. Covers all the bases.L33 said:
The T350 will be cheeper to buy and service properly.
As for how they drive, the 911 is a smoother, more refined with better road manners. However, due to its flat torque curve, the 911 doesn't feel all that fast. In fact, they actually feel rather slow.
The T350 is quicker but feels MUCH quicker on the road.
Porsche more forgiving, TVR more fun.
For me, if it were an every day car, I'd take the Porsche. As second car / toy, I'd take the T350 simply for the tingle it sends down the back of your neck when you drive it - every drive is an event.
L33
I tend to agree with the last paragraph, but to describe a 911 Turbo as feeling slow and as actually being slower than a T350? ....are you sure!As for how they drive, the 911 is a smoother, more refined with better road manners. However, due to its flat torque curve, the 911 doesn't feel all that fast. In fact, they actually feel rather slow.
The T350 is quicker but feels MUCH quicker on the road.
Porsche more forgiving, TVR more fun.
For me, if it were an every day car, I'd take the Porsche. As second car / toy, I'd take the T350 simply for the tingle it sends down the back of your neck when you drive it - every drive is an event.
L33
Certainly the blueprinted 3.6 T350 I owned was no where near the performance of my 911 Turbo.
I was thinking about selling my T350 and getting a 911 turbo, I went out to the garage to start her up, she had been sitting for a few weeks, as soon as it started I was HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY! my mind changed stright away!
While it was up forsale I couldnt help myself buying more toys for it ended up spending 2k on her!! I have decided to keep the beast.
A friend of mine bought a Cayman S 2 Seater thing with a heap of toys, Dont get me wrong its a nice car etc, but no wow factor I feel my car has got!
Go out and get a test drive of both, Im sure you will end up buying a TVR.
While it was up forsale I couldnt help myself buying more toys for it ended up spending 2k on her!! I have decided to keep the beast.
A friend of mine bought a Cayman S 2 Seater thing with a heap of toys, Dont get me wrong its a nice car etc, but no wow factor I feel my car has got!
Go out and get a test drive of both, Im sure you will end up buying a TVR.
Edited by CHAPS100 on Friday 1st January 10:50
TVR_owner said:
L33 said:
The T350 will be cheeper to buy and service properly.
As for how they drive, the 911 is a smoother, more refined with better road manners. However, due to its flat torque curve, the 911 doesn't feel all that fast. In fact, they actually feel rather slow.
The T350 is quicker but feels MUCH quicker on the road.
Porsche more forgiving, TVR more fun.
For me, if it were an every day car, I'd take the Porsche. As second car / toy, I'd take the T350 simply for the tingle it sends down the back of your neck when you drive it - every drive is an event.
L33
I tend to agree with the last paragraph, but to describe a 911 Turbo as feeling slow and as actually being slower than a T350? ....are you sure!As for how they drive, the 911 is a smoother, more refined with better road manners. However, due to its flat torque curve, the 911 doesn't feel all that fast. In fact, they actually feel rather slow.
The T350 is quicker but feels MUCH quicker on the road.
Porsche more forgiving, TVR more fun.
For me, if it were an every day car, I'd take the Porsche. As second car / toy, I'd take the T350 simply for the tingle it sends down the back of your neck when you drive it - every drive is an event.
L33
Certainly the blueprinted 3.6 T350 I owned was no where near the performance of my 911 Turbo.
Try both - the 996 is a very capable car but just doesn't feel special in a way the TVR does, for an everyday driver Porsche all the way. Anything else the TVR wins hands down!
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