looking to buy a sagaris
looking to buy a sagaris
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ERIC340R

Original Poster:

35 posts

226 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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hello

i'm from france and i want a sagaris since 2 years. i sold my lotus exige s1 honda sc

now i'm ready to buy one. but i don't know if a cheapper t 350 will not give me the same pleaser.
what's your opinion?

how can we see if the engine need a ribuilt?


thanks for helping me

Targarama

14,738 posts

309 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Good plan :-)

The T350 is a great car, but you'll need to test both and decide whether the extra cost of the Sagaris is worth it to you.

Engines - Other than get a good TVR specialist to give any prospective purchase a once over, there is not much else you can do. Just dream of needing a rebuild as an axcuse to get a 4.3 upgrade. I think that is what most of us owners actually do now - we don't dread this happening, we secretly want to be able to justify an upgrade wink The later Speed Six engines are pretty good and are tainted by all the problems of the early engines from 2000/2001.

Don1

16,635 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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I agree - drive both, and make your mind up. I know personally that the Sagaris was the only one I wanted, and have not been disappointed.

Rebuild - to be honest, you can't unless it's making a really bad noise, but if the car has been looked after on the outside, then hopefully it would be the same on the inside.

Finally, I seem to remember that it is very difficult to register TVR's in France - I may be wrong, but I think people have had issues.

ERIC340R

Original Poster:

35 posts

226 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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thanks for your opinion.
i'm going to decide next week what to do.
the t350 are cheapper and will maybe give me 90% of the pleaser of a sagaris.but a sagaris is a sagaris, a car from hell i must think about that

GT TVR

1,627 posts

308 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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ERIC340R said:
thanks for your opinion.
i'm going to decide next week what to do.
the t350 are cheapper and will maybe give me 90% of the pleaser of a sagaris.but a sagaris is a sagaris, a car from hell i must think about that
Very true.

Indeed be aware that it's virtually impossible to register these cars in France.
Where abouts are you?

markSTI

61 posts

217 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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I live in France (I am English) and the thing that keeps stopping me from buying a TVR is the lack of backup in France when things go wrong. I live around 40 minutes south of Le Mans near Tours and there isn't a garage around here that will touch a TVR. In Le Mans there are loads of specialist garages, but none with knowledge of the straight 6 etc and they are all very reluctant to touch one. This as you can appreciate doesn’t fill me with confidence. A shame as said I’d have a T350, Tuscan S or Sagaris by the time I was forty, bloody forty next week.

As for registering it, it can end up being department specific. I looked in to registering a Tuscan, spoke to the DIRIE and they couldn't see a problem getting it on French plates. However I've heard of people having nightmares in other departments.

Funnily enough I went and bought an Elise (drive one before you die) R instead, at least they are well supported in the area I live.

crimbo

1,308 posts

254 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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There won’t be too much difference between the cars and you will be happy with each ever you choose. It’s more a choice of do you want beautiful styling or do you want bonkers yet somehow still beautiful styling. I don’t judge the cost of the car buy how much I bought it for I judge it by how much it cost me to own including what I sold it for. That way I would not think either would be more expensive as they both depreciate slowly and cost the same to service and run.

If you are worried about the engine get a rebuild before you take it France with a 3year warranty or source a car that has had a rebuild. Ps you have picked a good time to be looking for a Sagaris. There is a wonderful selection of colours available at the moment.

ERIC340R

Original Poster:

35 posts

226 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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i'm from south of france (nimes) and i had 7 lotus exige elise and 340r with honda and vhpd engine. lotus are fanatstic cars,but want to change now.
my last one was an exige s1 with honda supercharged and 300 hp for 850 kg. but i loose my driving licence 2 weeks ago with,and for 2 months. so i sale the car and i want something that is beautiful and with a magic sound,and drive slowly for pleasure.

it's true that is very very difficult to register a sagaris or t350 in france. but well by the past i register a westfield xtr2 so... nothing impossible . but it take about 8 month to do it.


GT TVR

1,627 posts

308 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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ERIC340R said:
and drive slowly for pleasure.
and your want a T350/Sag??? you better prepare to lose your license again ...
or buy a V8S/DB7 Vantage or someting.

ERIC340R

Original Poster:

35 posts

226 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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in the tvr there's an "ambiance" you take opleasure seeing the inside of the car when driving. you have a beautiful noise also..so i think i can try driving more slowly than my exige s1 with 300 hp.

crimbo

1,308 posts

254 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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ERIC340R said:
in the tvr there's an "ambiance" you take opleasure seeing the inside of the car when driving. you have a beautiful noise also..so i think i can try driving more slowly than my exige s1 with 300 hp.
yes Thats what I think is great about them, you don't have to go flat out to enjoy them, though once in awhile its nice to remind yourself of just how well they can accelerate.

markSTI

61 posts

217 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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ERIC340R said:
i'm from south of france (nimes) and i had 7 lotus exige elise and 340r with honda and vhpd engine. lotus are fanatstic cars,but want to change now.
my last one was an exige s1 with honda supercharged and 300 hp for 850 kg. but i loose my driving licence 2 weeks ago with,and for 2 months. so i sale the car and i want something that is beautiful and with a magic sound,and drive slowly for pleasure.

it's true that is very very difficult to register a sagaris or t350 in france. but well by the past i register a westfield xtr2 so... nothing impossible . but it take about 8 month to do it.
Its a pitty you don't know (maybe you do) anybody in the UK that would let you register the car at their address. I have lived in France for 7 years and I have an Impreza STI and Integra Type R still on English plates registered at my mam and dads, its not illegal. I have changed the Lotus plates though!

Kaplaah

46 posts

196 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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ERIC340R said:
i'm from south of france (nimes) and i had 7 lotus exige elise and 340r with honda and vhpd engine. lotus are fanatstic cars,but want to change now.
my last one was an exige s1 with honda supercharged and 300 hp for 850 kg. but i loose my driving licence 2 weeks ago with,and for 2 months. so i sale the car and i want something that is beautiful and with a magic sound,and drive slowly for pleasure.

it's true that is very very difficult to register a sagaris or t350 in france. but well by the past i register a westfield xtr2 so... nothing impossible . but it take about 8 month to do it.
you need a t350t........ cool

stimshady

1,323 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Kaplaah said:
you need a t350t........ cool
or a 'c' wink

cool

ERIC340R

Original Poster:

35 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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drive with english plates with an english adress i would like.. but you need an english insurance. french insurance insure only 3 month with english plates.

markSTI

61 posts

217 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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ERIC340R said:
drive with english plates with an english adress i would like.. but you need an english insurance. french insurance insure only 3 month with english plates.
Hi, I don't know who told you the above, but they are wrong, I've had my Integra Type R and STI on English plates here for 4 years. I'm insured by a French insurance company and I have a contole technique on both cars. I also had the Lotus on English plates for around a year before I changed them. My friend is a policman and he also said its not illegal. As long as the car is insured and has a French contole technique, if it's older than 4 years old. I"ve been stopped by the police loads of times, mainley just to look at the car and they commented "are you going to change the plates", "I said no" and they said "ok". I can put you in touch with a couple of insurance companies that have no problems insuring English registered cars.