T350 for £14.5k - VCAR?
T350 for £14.5k - VCAR?
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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Does anyone know anything of this 350T and is VCAR worse than Cat C in loss adjustment terms??



http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...

sean j g

619 posts

252 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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VCAR means vehicle condition alert register so the car could be cat D,C,or worse if you hpi the car it will tell you which cat it is and when it was written off!!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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Do they have to pass a more rigorous inspection due to the damage to get them back on the road or a "normal" MOT?

sean j g

619 posts

252 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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once repaired it has to have a vic check which is done via the ministry to check all chasis numbers match so that it is the car its supposed to be once this has been done you then apply for a v5 via dvla as normal with vic check certificate and a v5 will be issued but it will state on the v5 that the vehicle was subject to an insurance claim once this has all be done and checked the car is motd via any mot testing station from then on

sean j g

619 posts

252 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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forgot to mention the vic test is not to check the quality of the repair but just to confirm the cars identity is correct i.e not a stolen car cloned to the written of vehicles details so you would need to check who repaired the car and it would be up to you to check it has been repaired correctly and properly in my opinion once they have been badly damaged they are never the same and the value is affected and any cat c,d, write off is always harder to sell on hope this helps cheers sean

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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That link doesn't seem to show the car, so I'm guessing a bit...

350bhp on a crash-repaired chassis? I think I'd steer well clear.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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Link works fine for me....

grumbledoak said:
That link doesn't seem to show the car, so I'm guessing a bit...

350bhp on a crash-repaired chassis? I think I'd steer well clear.
There's quite a few Tivs on the road that have had "previous" tho right??

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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sean j g said:
forgot to mention the vic test is not to check the quality of the repair but just to confirm the cars identity is correct i.e not a stolen car cloned to the written of vehicles details so you would need to check who repaired the car and it would be up to you to check it has been repaired correctly and properly in my opinion once they have been badly damaged they are never the same and the value is affected and any cat c,d, write off is always harder to sell on hope this helps cheers sean
All good advice thanks.....

Would there be an issue with insurance? Even for the noted TVR friendly ones?

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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djstevec said:
There's quite a few Tivs on the road that have had "previous" tho right??
Yeah, but it's easy enough to smash the fibreglass without bending the rest of it.

If I was considering it I'd want to know exactly what the damage was and who did the repairs.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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grumbledoak said:
djstevec said:
There's quite a few Tivs on the road that have had "previous" tho right??
Yeah, but it's easy enough to smash the fibreglass without bending the rest of it.

If I was considering it I'd want to know exactly what the damage was and who did the repairs.
Absolutely agree....but with a tubluar steel chassis, would there be any loss of rigidity by cutting out the damaged sections and replacing with new? I read posts all the time about owners repairing the chassis/outriggers etc due to rust, if its been correctly whats the diff??

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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I don't think the outriggers are structurally important. I'd be more worried about the main "I" frame. I don't even know where the jigs are these days, but "J. Random car garage" won't have them.

Is she, underneath all the leather, a banana?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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grumbledoak said:
I don't think the outriggers are structurally important. I'd be more worried about the main "I" frame. I don't even know where the jigs are these days, but "J. Random car garage" won't have them.

Is she, underneath all the leather, a banana?
Yes again I agree mate....if the guys have got it straight etc....but is there any loss of rigidity of the chassis due to having to cut parts out??

Edited by djstevec on Tuesday 14th December 16:30

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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djstevec said:
is there any loss of rigidity of the chassis due to having to cut parts out??
My guess is that, if the welding is done well, no. But I'm no expert here.

I'm sure someone will be along...

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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grumbledoak said:
djstevec said:
is there any loss of rigidity of the chassis due to having to cut parts out??
My guess is that, if the welding is done well, no. But I'm no expert here.

I'm sure someone will be along...
For a 2005 350T with 9k on the clock @ 14.5k....I think Im gonna be very tempted...

jrb43

906 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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I'm not sure. It's no biggie that the kick plates say "Tamora"; just attention to detail that many owners would sort out. Or did new ones need finding in a hurry because they were bent with the main rails? I'd also be reasonably certain that this car was originally black - check the paperwork carefully and again, consider what this means to you and any future owner. Cosmetically imperfect but mechanically sound T350s without crash history (and from owners that need out) can be had for £18k privately. It's your call. I would wager this particular car will never be worth more than it is now; I wouldn't see this as an exciting investment opportunity but I'm happy to be wrong.

sean j g

619 posts

252 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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i agree i think its better left alone i to noticed the tamora kick plates? also?original colour i would prefer to pay a bit more for a straight one with no stories attached also then if you ever decide to sell,it will be much easier to move on as most people will be put of by a tvr that has been an insurance write off this of course is only my opinion so good luck with whatever decission you make

tobeee

1,436 posts

297 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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I'm fairly certain I saw a thread about this car a few weeks ago (Mid-Nov perhaps) but I can't recall the title. Personally I'd prefer a car without an insurance history, no matter how cheap (well, obviously there's a point at which I'd consider it, so maybe this one is haggleable).

Edited by tobeee on Tuesday 14th December 18:31

LeeT350c

575 posts

210 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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That looks like the one that was sold on EBAY not long back?

If its the same one it was a cat D and went for £16150 so the price tells me theres something wrong??

Cheers. Lee.

RWA441

703 posts

253 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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LeeT350c said:
That looks like the one that was sold on EBAY not long back?

If its the same one it was a cat D and went for £16150 so the price tells me theres something wrong??

Cheers. Lee.
Good spot!!
You're quite right it is that one.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

I started the topic on it last time and you're pretty much correct on the price so it sets alarm bells ringing with me straight away that they want to sell it at a loss only a couple of months later!!

Gazzab

21,637 posts

311 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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Run man run.
When someone says a car is 'vcar' then I always think they are dishonest. Why not say Cat C etc, this is the more common terminology.