Done 3 k in my N420 manual

[spice]

Done 3 k in my N420 manual , and love it , gearbox is wonderful , blipping on the way down with the barking sport exhaust is addictive , clutch is beatifully weighted and exact , I have not driven the sport11 box but got bored very quick with the F1 in my F430 , you will not regret a manual

[George H]

spice said:

...you will not regret a manual

Disagree, automated manuals are the way forward.

I'm in the very small minority with that view though

[Jockman]

You never going to try a V12V Georgeous ??

You'd be missing something special matey

[George H]

Jockman said:

You never going to try a V12V Georgeous ??

You'd be missing something special matey

Tried one, also driven a friend's manual DBS a few times, they aren't for me. I love flappy paddle gearboxes, don't know why but I just do.

The V12V has a combination of things why I wouldn't want one - the bonnet, the gearbox, the fixed roof. Only Aston I want with a manual box is the V600 LM.

[spice]

Jockman said:

You never going to try a V12V Georgeous ??

You'd be missing something special matey

Forgot to add my car is a roadster , if there was a V12 roadster I would have it , but the V8 has a wonderful burble

[yeti]

George H said:

I love flappy paddle gearboxes, don't know why but I just do.

Laziness?

Friends of mine swear by their Maserati Cambiocorsa gearboxes but driving for me incolves three pedals and a gearstick. I accept that automated manuals are the future, I'll stick with my classical school of motoring though, thanks

Horses for courses.

[George H]

yeti said:

Laziness?

Friends of mine swear by their Maserati Cambiocorsa gearboxes but driving for me incolves three pedals and a gearstick. I accept that automated manuals are the future, I'll stick with my classical school of motoring though, thanks

Horses for courses.

Laziness, or efficiency?

[CPBRI]

Recently bought a V12V and absolutely love the manual gearbox.

[Speedraser]

yeti said:

George H said:

I love flappy paddle gearboxes, don't know why but I just do.

Laziness?

Friends of mine swear by their Maserati Cambiocorsa gearboxes but driving for me incolves three pedals and a gearstick. I accept that automated manuals are the future, I'll stick with my classical school of motoring though, thanks

Horses for courses.

Yeti, I agree completely. However "good" a paddle 'box is, I just don't find them fun to use -- spoils the experience for me. I'll take a gear lever and clutch pedal every time.

[yeti]

George H said:

Laziness, or efficiency?

From an engineering standpoint - hard to disagree with the efficiency angle. And on track, in a race or through multiple complicated corners I see the advantage.

But I like the challenge of 3 pedals and a gearstick, both feet and both hands busy all the time. Raises the involvement in driving from the level of a housewife/boulevardier to that of a true driving god. IMHO

[JohnG1]

yeti said:

From an engineering standpoint - hard to disagree with the efficiency angle. And on track, in a race or through multiple complicated corners I see the advantage.

But I like the challenge of 3 pedals and a gearstick, both feet and both hands busy all the time. Raises the involvement in driving from the level of a housewife/boulevardier to that of a true driving god. IMHO

Even I can drive a manual!!

Does this make me a driving god too?!

[yeti]

JohnG1 said:

Even I can drive a manual!!
Does this make me a driving god too?!

There is perhaps, an exception that proves every rule John

[JohnG1]

yeti said:

There is perhaps, an exception that proves every rule John

Where's the smiley for "taking my ball home and maybe going for a quick cry"???

[mikey k]

George H said:

spice said:

...you will not regret a manual

Disagree, automated manuals are the way forward.

I'm in the very small minority with that view though

Minoriy is growing then because I'm a convert to ASM2 (much better than ASM1)

[mikey k]

spice said:

Forgot to add my car is a roadster , if there was a V12 roadster I would have it , but the V8 has a wonderful burble

Closest you will get is a V8VRS (which has the same exhaust as your N420 I think )
Many forget the roadsters give more exahust noise and less diff noise because of the roof and the rear tub being sealed unlike the coupe.

[spice]

This is fabulous. This is what we want out of a 911. And it's all there for the taking with the simple addition of a clutch pedal and stick shift. Better still the £2,387 you save on PDK can go a long way towards more worthwhile options. Like the sports exhaust and, maybe, the PTV/limited-slip diff.

[George H]

yeti said:

From an engineering standpoint - hard to disagree with the efficiency angle. And on track, in a race or through multiple complicated corners I see the advantage.

But I like the challenge of 3 pedals and a gearstick, both feet and both hands busy all the time. Raises the involvement in driving from the level of a housewife/boulevardier to that of a true driving god. IMHO

If you want to keep all your limbs busy, how about left foot braking, and both hands on the steering wheel at quater to three, allowing you to use the paddles? You will be even faster, and have all your limbs doing something

mikey k said:

Minoriy is growing then because I'm a convert to ASM2 (much better than ASM1)

I'm not alone

I hope the ASM3 has a double clutch set up, one thing that's missing from ASM2 imo.

[JohnG1]

George H said:

I'm not alone

I hope the ASM3 has a double clutch set up, one thing that's missing from ASM2 imo.

ASM3 would be the gearbox in a McLaren no? That has two wet clutches side by side...

[George H]

JohnG1 said:

ASM3 would be the gearbox in a McLaren no? That has two wet clutches side by side...

Would probably be a derivative I imagine. A similar gearbox is used in the Aventador and F458 too isn't it?

I'd like to see the next one come with launch control

[cathalm]

No, Aventador is a single clutch.