Aston Martin DB9 camshaft / tappet noise BAD
Aston Martin DB9 camshaft / tappet noise BAD
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R1LLE

Original Poster:

16 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Any one had a DB9 with a cam shaft and tappet problem? The driver ran it low on oil now it needs these items!! Any one around the Nottingham area that can do this job? Or any advise on doing it? I think it is the passenger side that had the problem.

Genie Chaser

103 posts

169 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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It's not run the big end crankshaft bearings as its been run low on oil?

R1LLE

Original Poster:

16 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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I would say it is the N/S either exhaust or inlet cam etc. The car starts and runs OK with a loudish rattle / tapping when reved up. It did miss a few beats last night, slight miss fire etc.

It is possible that the crank could have gone but it does seem top end to me.

Aston want to put an engine in it for around £11000 but I think it could be repaired with a strip down etc.


X7LDA

940 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Dont mean to scare you but this sounds quite familiar....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmL2rl1j8Q

Genie Chaser

103 posts

169 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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It can starve the back 2 or 3 journals, being that there the furthest from the oil pump. It can be worth getting the sump off, tho not an easy job, and re shelling it and then giving it a few oil changes, have heard this has worked in the past as the crankshaft os quite strong. Good luck !!

R1LLE

Original Poster:

16 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Good you tube video!

yeti

10,524 posts

299 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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You need to contact Bamford Rose straight away!!! http://www.bamfordrose.com


R1LLE

Original Poster:

16 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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OK thanks. What sort of a job is this time wise if we go down this route. Also do you know if the engine has to be out to change a cam shaft or two. As the rocker cover looks tight at the rear cylinders to the bulk head.

R1LLE

Original Poster:

16 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Thanks. will have a look at this sight. Are they good and come recommended?

Ta.

Genie Chaser

103 posts

169 months

Wednesday 4th April 2012
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Don't think the motor has to come out for a cam replacement as the covers do come off in situe. If it costs a couple of grand to fix, got to be better than 11 for a new engine. Is that fitted , or just for the parts?

1221

Original Poster:

16 posts

168 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Yep around £11000 fitted. Aston labour charge is £159+ vat and they recon around 21 hours. £16000 for new engine only + labour. Recon engine £12000 but with a surcharge of £6000 so basically £6000 + vat + labour charge + vat but could be more once they have it in bits!!

yeti

10,524 posts

299 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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R1LLE said:
Thanks. will have a look at this sight. Are they good and come recommended?

Ta.
Yes, they're part of the original engine design team from AM and have gone into business for themselves andare doing rather well.

I am having a bespoke 6.5 litre engine built by them, they know their V8 and V12 onions! Give them a call, you'll find no-one better as the factory will likely want to put a new or recon engine in.

1221

Original Poster:

16 posts

168 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Great stuff. Thanks.

LukeyLikey

855 posts

171 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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X7LDA said:
Dont mean to scare you but this sounds quite familiar....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmL2rl1j8Q
This video doesn't stack up. I've never heard of Aston V12's in DB9 letting go after less than 10k, so I doubt it is a design fault as this chap seems to want us to believe. It's not the same as the OP's issue - this was a catastrophic failure occurring in a very few revolutions due to oil starvation.

And what customer for a low mileage DB9, possibly even still in warranty, goes to a non-franchise workshop (that just happens to be a TV mechanic) with an engine failure? Did he also say at the start that he was going to put a 600bhp replacement in? That might be a clue..

The text below says "for a class action suit against Aston Martin call....". Hmmm.

For the record, I have no association with AM other than being an owner (and have taken two V12's through this mileage without bother).


1221

Original Poster:

16 posts

168 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Spoke with bamford rose and have booked the car in. They seem very knowledgable about these engines.
This DB9 has 90000 miles on the clock!!

DB9VolanteDriver

2,647 posts

200 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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LukeyLikey said:
This video doesn't stack up. I've never heard of Aston V12's in DB9 letting go after less than 10k, so I doubt it is a design fault as this chap seems to want us to believe. It's not the same as the OP's issue - this was a catastrophic failure occurring in a very few revolutions due to oil starvation.

And what customer for a low mileage DB9, possibly even still in warranty, goes to a non-franchise workshop (that just happens to be a TV mechanic) with an engine failure? Did he also say at the start that he was going to put a 600bhp replacement in? That might be a clue..

The text below says "for a class action suit against Aston Martin call....". Hmmm.

For the record, I have no association with AM other than being an owner (and have taken two V12's through this mileage without bother).
There have been several failures in the early models, all probably due to low oil level. AM acknowledged this by refitting those engines with a shorter dipstick and, separately, developing a low oil level sensing system.

So both parties at fault, inattentive owners and a dipstick giving a faulty oil level.