Might have overheated the brakes - advice
Might have overheated the brakes - advice
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MrOrange

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2,039 posts

282 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Went for a spirited drive at the weekend and after a while the brakes started making a pretty noisy "scraping" noise.

Stopped and checked, 5mm+ still on the pads yet the discs looked a little "patchy" and slightly blued in areas. The car still stopped ok, albeit with a longer pedal, but I'm wondering if it's time for a better compound or maybe wind-down the pace; the latter would be a little disappointing.

The sound went away after another 5 miles of gentle driving. Suggestions and ideas

(car is a Vantage N400)

quench

558 posts

175 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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5 mm? That's not a whole lot of pad!

Blue tinge uniformly over discs = OK (they should look like this after proper heat cycling and bedding in).

Patchy deposits = bad, could be uneven pad deposition, often incorrectly called warped discs. Typically these are accompanied by 'judder' or vibration when braking. Do you have this?

The front brakes on these cars are not adequately cooled, but unless you thrash the car mercilessly on mountain roads, I can't imagine this being an issue anywhere but the track.

MrOrange

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2,039 posts

282 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Patchy deposits. Tick.
Vibration. No.
Awful screechy metallic sound. Tick.
Long pedal. Tick.
V. hot brakes (smell). Tick.

I brake quite hard and it was hilly.

Silent1

19,762 posts

264 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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i suspect the inside pads are worn down more than the outside ones and are pretty much done.

quench

558 posts

175 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Metallic screeching - doesn't sound good! Time for new pads. I hope the discs aren't ruined. Do they look scored at all? I feel your pain - I wrecked my first set of discs and pads the first time I took my old V8V to the track, and it didn't take long.

BingoBob

1,098 posts

176 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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What Silent1 said. I have seen this on other cars where the outer pads look OK and the inner ones are completely toast. Possibly because of less cooling getting to the inner ones?

The disks can be skimmed by a pro to get the deposits off if there is enough meat left on them. Then perhaps put some pads on that can take the abuse.

mikey k

13,074 posts

245 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Sounds like a new set of pads and new fluid

Good Soil (Pete)

543 posts

290 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Before you go down the path of getting everything replaced you should get things apart and have a good look. Could be something as simple a small stone wedged somewhere it shouldn't have been.....

MrOrange

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2,039 posts

282 months

Saturday 9th June 2012
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UPDATE: Pads are okay, have over half the life left. Was recommended by an AM authority to switch to RS29 pads and Castrol SRF fluid so I'll be trying that over summer.