Time we speak about the elephant in the room - the cygnet
Time we speak about the elephant in the room - the cygnet
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Neilc123

Original Poster:

258 posts

172 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Okay, so I know the C word may be akin to saying the Scottish Play in the theatre but I think it is worth getting people's view on them. Are they actually selling? Will they be seriously taken as part of the Aston heritage or just an excuse/joke? Does anyone here actually own one and is brave enough to speak?

AstonZagato

14,187 posts

239 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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There is already a massive thread on here.

No and no are the answers.

Rusty133

10 posts

172 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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I have one at the moment on loan as my car is in for work at Amersham. Feel like a k**b driving it.

Neilc123

Original Poster:

258 posts

172 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Ooo an actual driving experience. Care to expand R?

redkite

117 posts

246 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Neilc123 said:
Ooo an actual driving experience. Care to expand R?
I had this little one when my V8V was in for some warranty work.

It drives like a small underpowered car but the interior is a bit special.
I had some kids pointing at it so they must have recognised it.


Rusty133

10 posts

172 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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I'm driving the one in the photo at the moment. Nice interior but pretty weak performance...plus can't help thinking that people look at it and wonder why anyone would buy one. The AM decals are huge...can't wait to get my car back!!!

yeti

10,675 posts

304 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Neilc123 said:
Are they actually selling?
Umm, no.

Neilc123 said:
Will they be seriously taken as part of the Aston heritage or just an excuse/joke?
Umm, no.

Neilc123 said:
Does anyone here actually own one and is brave enough to speak?
Umm, no.

Truly the Bez's worst idea frown

Neil1300 has a theory they're in the range to lower emissions, but we know that not to be true wink

mikey k

13,074 posts

245 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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yeti said:
Truly the Bez's worst idea frown
Oh I think that is a hard fought competition with a few more contenders to come wink

Riccardino

589 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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yeti said:
Neil1300 has a theory they're in the range to lower emissions, but we know that not to be true wink
Why is that not true? confused

I could not really find any other reason for it

yeti

10,675 posts

304 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Riccardino said:
Why is that not true? confused

I could not really find any other reason for it
Firstly it's still a Toyota - Aston are not the manufacturer, Toyota are!

Secondly Aston are a low volume manufacturer and don't make enough cars to have to comply with the emissions regulations that people thought this car was to avoid.

Bez has gone on record and said he thought it was a good idea and it would sell. £16 million in development costs wasted...


Edited by yeti on Wednesday 30th May 13:09

Riccardino

589 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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yeti said:
Firstly it's still a Toyota - Aston are not the manufacturer, Toyota are!

econdly Aston are a low volume manufacturer and don't make enough cars to have to comply with the emissions regulations that people thought this car was to avoid.
Does it mean that it actually reduce the Toyota emission as it is considered like a Toyota IQ?
What is the minimum number of car a manufacturer has to produce to be forced to comply with emission regulations?

yeti said:
Bez has gone on record and said he thought it was a good idea and it would sell. £16 million in development costs wasted...
Fully understand when I read here that Bez should not be allowed to make press releases smile

yeti

10,675 posts

304 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Riccardino said:
Does it mean that it actually reduce the Toyota emission as it is considered like a Toyota IQ?
What is the minimum number of car a manufacturer has to produce to be forced to comply with emission regulations?
There are about 15000 MkI IQs on British roads - I doubt 100 odd Cygnets makes much difference to Toyotas figures!

Low volume manufacturer is less than 10,000 units per year.

Do you not have google? confusedlaugh

AMDBSNick

7,215 posts

191 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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yeti said:
Do you not have google? confusedlaugh
Whos needs Google when we have you thumbup

Riccardino

589 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Thanks

I do have google but asking here is much easier and isn't this a forum for discussion? rolleyesbiggrin

Grant3

3,709 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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I had one a few months back when my car went in for service.

It looks ok, but the problem is EVERYONE knows it is a Toyota with a bodykit, badges and tarted up interior!

If Aston had added a supercharger or twin-turbo's and turned it into a feisty pocket rocket they may have got away with the idea, but as it an obvious pretender the only reason you would buy it is to say to others.. look I have an Aston Martin - when patently you haven't - which unfortunately makes you look a complete pratt biggrin -

Riccardino

589 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Grant3 said:
If Aston had added a supercharger or twin-turbo's and turned it into a feisty pocket rocket they may have got away with the idea, but as it an obvious pretender the only reason you would buy it is to say to others.. look I have an Aston Martin - when patently you haven't - which unfortunately makes you look a complete pratt biggrin -
I remember initially they were saying that only if you have a "real" Aston Martin you can buy one

AstonZagato

14,187 posts

239 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Riccardino said:
yeti said:
Firstly it's still a Toyota - Aston are not the manufacturer, Toyota are!

econdly Aston are a low volume manufacturer and don't make enough cars to have to comply with the emissions regulations that people thought this car was to avoid.
Does it mean that it actually reduce the Toyota emission as it is considered like a Toyota IQ?
What is the minimum number of car a manufacturer has to produce to be forced to comply with emission regulations?

yeti said:
Bez has gone on record and said he thought it was a good idea and it would sell. £16 million in development costs wasted...
Fully understand when I read here that Bez should not be allowed to make press releases smile
I seem to remember someone calculating that they'd need to sell three for every "proper" Aston sold in order to bring emissions under the limit anyway.

Grant3

3,709 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Riccardino said:
I remember initially they were saying that only if you have a "real" Aston Martin you can buy one
hehe You are spot-on, an attempt at a clever marketing ploy - but they dropped that within about 3 nano-seconds when ..... amazingly biggrin ..... no existing owners proved interested in shelling out nearly £40k eek for a Toyota in drag.

Jockman

18,410 posts

189 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Didn't Mrs Moss receive one for her birthday from Sir S ?? smile

Riccardino

589 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Grant3 said:
hehe You are spot-on, an attempt at a clever marketing ploy - but they dropped that within about 3 nano-seconds when ..... amazingly biggrin ..... no existing owners proved interested in shelling out nearly £40k eek for a Toyota in drag.
And the marketing people immediately moved to a new target as mentioned before
The people who would like to say "I have an Aston Martin" but it seems that also that did not worl smile