Premium audio gripe
Premium audio gripe
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BingoBob

Original Poster:

1,098 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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I mostly listen to my iPhone when driving, but something is driving me mad.

When you plug the iPhone in the car takes control of it and you can't select tracks or artists or anything. This is unbeLIEVably annoying in its own right. Why would it disable the most convenient way of selecting stuff. Grr.

This wouldn't be so bad, but it seems that there is no other way to select an artist or song title than going through the whole list from A to whatever-letter-your-title-starts-with using the joystick.

This is probably OK when you've only got Barry Manilow's greatest hits on, but I've got about 8000 tracks on my phone, and if I had to go through them one by one I would most often have arrived at my destination before finding the song (or wrapped around a tree from staring at the center console).

Then I spotted the letters on the center console buttons! EUREKA! I thought. All I have to do is press the button with the letter on and it will go to the start of that group of letters, but no, the buttons are obstinately inert. I find this baffling.

So 2 questions:

1. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Perhaps I need a firmware update.
2. Is there a way of stopping the car taking control of the iPod / iPhone? Maybe insulating a contact on the plug. I need to get an adapter for charging anyway...

Thanks!

P.S. I have also noticed that bluetooth is the same, can't select contacts using the letter buttons. Arghhh!





Jockman

18,410 posts

189 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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Just hit shuffle Roberto and you will be surprise yourself.

There was a previous thread on this topic but as I'm on the iPhone in the airport lounge I'm afraid that the askjockman.com facility is down frown

BingoBob

Original Poster:

1,098 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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At least askjockman.com is up more often that the PH search!

Old Skool

97 posts

193 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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I have the same gripe re:iPhone. To be honest I would recommend setting up some playlists when you have sometime which may make things a bit easier to rife through.

Using the "abc" buttons would be very very useful but it seems you can't do that for music.

However for my phone it works just fine... If I access the address book on the phone (by using the rocker switch on the back of the steering wheel) then using those buttons as one would use an old phone to text, I can get to the appropriate section of the address book. So, for example, pressing "def" twice takes me to the start of all names beginning with "e".

BingoBob

Original Poster:

1,098 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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OK, I thought I tried that with my phone, but I could be wrong about it not working.

I just wish there was a way to stop the car taking control of the iPhone. I just know it's a line of code in the headunit that's ruining my premium audio experience!

AdamV8V

1,389 posts

185 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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A simpler solution could be just using the AUX cable connection. Then use the iPhone to select tracks as you would with headphones, docking station etc.

I don't use an iPhone, so this maybe wrong, but you may even be able to use the Siri bloke to select your tracks by voice.

I have an iPod and a Nokia Lumia phone that also has my music on it, and almost always end up using my Lumia for music via AUX for the reasons you state above.

It's also a much better Sat Nav than the Volvo unit in the dash!

Neil1300R

5,759 posts

207 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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Everything you nned to know about Siri and the Jesus phone
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

BingoBob

Original Poster:

1,098 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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Thanks. I will try the siri thing.

The problem with using the Aux input is that the sound quality is awful compared to the dock connector.

I have found a solution, but it involves jailbreaking my iPhone.

If there is a devil, this is how he works... not fire and brimstone, but things like "accessory connected" which drives you round the bend!

MichaelV8V

650 posts

290 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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I think this is the standard way things work with the iPhone, my Audi is the same, and even my Onkyo amplifier at home does it.

I just unplug the phone, select the music, then plug it back in. Or I play Adele endlessly because she is at the start of the list

BingoBob

Original Poster:

1,098 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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Yeah, it depends on the car. It doesn't HAVE to lock you out. It's a bit like cars that don't let you pair bluetooth phones with the engine running. I hate being nannied.

I won't be beaten by a lump of plastic and glass. Jailbreak it is then...

franki68

11,640 posts

250 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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My iPhone seemed to work ok with the stereo controls,but as it does not charge the phone I decided it better to buy a nano onebay for £30 and just use that for music in the car.
Stereo works perfectly with it ,but it did with the iPhone as well,you may be doing something wrong ? I recall it wasn't easy to set up ,not logical at all.

Jockman

18,410 posts

189 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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franki68 said:
My iPhone seemed to work ok with the stereo controls,but as it does not charge the phone I decided it better to buy a nano onebay for £30 and just use that for music in the car.
Stereo works perfectly with it ,but it did with the iPhone as well,you may be doing something wrong ? I recall it wasn't easy to set up ,not logical at all.
Franki you just need to purchase a scosche adapter and it will charge your phone too smile

George H

14,714 posts

193 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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I just make playlists on iTunes. Then I just select one of those on my iPod before I set off, plug it in and then I'm sorted smile

BingoBob

Original Poster:

1,098 posts

176 months

Sunday 3rd June 2012
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I have playlists, but sometimes I just want to listen to a particular song that I could navigate to in 5 seconds with the iPhone, but is just too tiresome a proposition to do using the joystick.

It's actually more a question of not accepting that the car can tell me what I can or can't do with my iPhone. My other cars doesn't bug me so why should the Aston?

Just downloading iOS 5.1.1 prior to jailbreaking... In yer face, Apple / Aston. spin

BingoBob

Original Poster:

1,098 posts

176 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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That has sorted it. I now have full control of my iPhone from the phone itself or the car. No more "Accessory Connected" screen.

Completely painless operation. Once iOS5.1.1 installed, it took about 10 minutes to jailbreak the phone and install NoAccSplash.

Feeling very smug.

Now no cars, including the Aston, will bug me with their ridiculous imposed iPod interfaces (*cough* Peugeot *cough*).

yeti

10,675 posts

304 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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BingoBob said:
Once iOS5.1.1 installed, it took about 10 minutes to jailbreak the phone and install NoAccSplash.
I wish I understood that sentence frown

jamesc12

281 posts

232 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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The Dension kit that I've fitted can be switched between the iPhone UI (control using the phone) or car controlled (slow) - I've left it in iPhone UI mode since it's been fitted so haven't had this issue. Glad to see you've got it sorted though...

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

299 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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I wonder why the Dension car control mode for iPod or USB input has to be so excruciatingly slow. It really is annoying. Another gripe is that it only scrolls the name of the artist/song twice and then switches to just displaying a track number. On the plus side, it is nice get to listen to all my music through Aston's amazing Premium Audio. I hated having to use CDs which seem as outdated as cassette tapes now.

jamesc12

281 posts

232 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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KarlFranz said:
I wonder why the Dension car control mode for iPod or USB input has to be so excruciatingly slow. It really is annoying. Another gripe is that it only scrolls the name of the artist/song twice and then switches to just displaying a track number. On the plus side, it is nice get to listen to all my music through Aston's amazing Premium Audio. I hated having to use CDs which seem as outdated as cassette tapes now.
Yep - it's made me want to drive the car even more now I've got the iPod kit fitted. Perhaps you should try controlling the iPod via it's own controls (iPod UI) - I found out at the weekend you can |< and >| tracks via the radio buttons on the dash (and I presume the steering wheel). Since that's by far and away the more common action I perform, I'm even happier with it now.

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

299 months

Monday 4th June 2012
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jamesc12 said:
Yep - it's made me want to drive the car even more now I've got the iPod kit fitted. Perhaps you should try controlling the iPod via it's own controls (iPod UI) - I found out at the weekend you can |< and >| tracks via the radio buttons on the dash (and I presume the steering wheel). Since that's by far and away the more common action I perform, I'm even happier with it now.
I use the iPod UI mode when I hook up the iPod or iPhone to my car (going through Bluetooth audio doesn't sound as good) but when I use a USB stick with music files, I'm forced to use the slow car controls. frown