Anybody did full glass key conversion?
Discussion
Hi there. I am new to this forum and already picked up a few very handy tips. Thanks to you all.
I have a Vantage Roadster MY08. I bought the ECU/Glass Key. I will simply swap the inside and have a working remote like that without any reprogramming. I still have to use the regular key of course to start. Grrrr....
One option is to keep the normal key in the car but the insurance might not like that in case of issues. Anybody doing this?
More importantly, I was wondering whether somebody did a "real" conversion so somehow getting the dock including the switch and put this in an older Aston? I noted that the new dock is slightly larger than the old start button and fits on top of the ski slope so - theoretically - it is possible to fit this with some serious DYI without seeing the difference from the outside. If somebody did this, any learninga/tips/etc. What about the security "thing" in the key? Also, where would one get a dock?
Thanks!
I have a Vantage Roadster MY08. I bought the ECU/Glass Key. I will simply swap the inside and have a working remote like that without any reprogramming. I still have to use the regular key of course to start. Grrrr....
One option is to keep the normal key in the car but the insurance might not like that in case of issues. Anybody doing this?
More importantly, I was wondering whether somebody did a "real" conversion so somehow getting the dock including the switch and put this in an older Aston? I noted that the new dock is slightly larger than the old start button and fits on top of the ski slope so - theoretically - it is possible to fit this with some serious DYI without seeing the difference from the outside. If somebody did this, any learninga/tips/etc. What about the security "thing" in the key? Also, where would one get a dock?
Thanks!
Well, for the ones interested I found a "way in between" to use the glass key and not leave a working key in the car.
This is what I did.
1. I bought a cheap Ford key (one from 15 years back I think it was a Fiesta or so without any transponder) with the Ford dealer and using the original key code they made it the same as the car's. Costs: 11 euro for the key and 9 euro to copy the key, in other words: nothing!
2. I swapped the inside of the remote with the glass key. After this, the glass key can open / close the car as with the normal remote.
3. I programmed the transponder of the glass key to work as a regular third key. How to do: quickly start the car using two programmed keys and directly after that you insert the Ford key and keep the glass key close turning the Ford key around. After this you have a "dumb" Ford key that can start the car as long as you keep the glass key next to it (it really needs to be at the center of the console, so "really close".
4. Now the trick: I broke the dumb Ford key and took out the metal piece (the "beard"). I then asked somebody to weld the beard on a piece of metal and I turned that into a nice "pocket" for the glass key. I am still in the process of giving this some kind of nice leather look.
5. What you can now do is leave the pocket with the beard of the key in the car. There is no way you can start the car with this since it has no transponder.
6. I just carry the glass key to open the car. The moment I am in the car I stick it in the pocket and start the car. During driving it stays there. No issue.
Best of both worlds: not the ugly Volvo key with the separate remote, I can enjoy the new nice glass key and I do not leave anything in the car which is dangerous insurance-wise. And not expensive, no dealer needed, no permanent changes to the car and everything can be brought back to the original situation by simply swapping the inside of the remote back again when I want to sell the car.
As I said, just for the ones interested.
This is what I did.
1. I bought a cheap Ford key (one from 15 years back I think it was a Fiesta or so without any transponder) with the Ford dealer and using the original key code they made it the same as the car's. Costs: 11 euro for the key and 9 euro to copy the key, in other words: nothing!
2. I swapped the inside of the remote with the glass key. After this, the glass key can open / close the car as with the normal remote.
3. I programmed the transponder of the glass key to work as a regular third key. How to do: quickly start the car using two programmed keys and directly after that you insert the Ford key and keep the glass key close turning the Ford key around. After this you have a "dumb" Ford key that can start the car as long as you keep the glass key next to it (it really needs to be at the center of the console, so "really close".
4. Now the trick: I broke the dumb Ford key and took out the metal piece (the "beard"). I then asked somebody to weld the beard on a piece of metal and I turned that into a nice "pocket" for the glass key. I am still in the process of giving this some kind of nice leather look.
5. What you can now do is leave the pocket with the beard of the key in the car. There is no way you can start the car with this since it has no transponder.
6. I just carry the glass key to open the car. The moment I am in the car I stick it in the pocket and start the car. During driving it stays there. No issue.
Best of both worlds: not the ugly Volvo key with the separate remote, I can enjoy the new nice glass key and I do not leave anything in the car which is dangerous insurance-wise. And not expensive, no dealer needed, no permanent changes to the car and everything can be brought back to the original situation by simply swapping the inside of the remote back again when I want to sell the car.
As I said, just for the ones interested.
barny 11 said:
is the key and fob realy that ugly to have to go all through that 
Yeah, it's a pretty lame looking fob 
I like that idea but don't >really< understand how it all works, so crappy fob for me. If a keyring loop could be grafted onto the glass key, I'd happily have that just as a keyfob with my normal Ford/Volvo key next to it. How easy is it to swap internals..?
I'm still confused by how this all works. Don't you have to leave the Ford key in the ignition in order to choose position I, II, or III as well as unlock the steering column? If you leave the key in there, do you think someone might break your window glass thinking that they could simply turn the key and drive off? Also, doesn't the message center display that the key is in the ignition all the time when the car is off?
yeti said:
Yeah, it's a pretty lame looking fob
I like that idea but don't >really< understand how it all works, so crappy fob for me. If a keyring loop could be grafted onto the glass key, I'd happily have that just as a keyfob with my normal Ford/Volvo key next to it. How easy is it to swap internals..?
I'm surprised you don't have an AMVOX2 with the transponder built in Yeti. Would suit your spy like tendencies well I think I like that idea but don't >really< understand how it all works, so crappy fob for me. If a keyring loop could be grafted onto the glass key, I'd happily have that just as a keyfob with my normal Ford/Volvo key next to it. How easy is it to swap internals..?
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