Does anyone drive with the ASR off?
Does anyone drive with the ASR off?
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johnnyBv8

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2,482 posts

220 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Just wondering whether anyone switches this off, or is it best left on? On my Maserati 3200, the Sport mode means that the wheels are allowed to lose a little traction before the system cuts in - which is nice on the (rare) occasion you get to drive spiritedly and feel that little bit of rear end squirm! However, due to its very aggressive turbo power delivery, the general advice is NEVER to turn the system off completely biggrin. Still getting used to the Vantage, but the power delivery is much more linear and it's far less of a handful. A couple of times I've felt the traction control cut in though, and it does so very early I would say. So...to my original question...!

Mr Aston Martin

478 posts

189 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Depends on your ability and aim?

After experiencing the PDC where the drivers reveal the potential and depth of engineering behind the car I'm happy to leave the switch turned on. Then I'm quite happy pootling around.....

johnnyBv8

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2,482 posts

220 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Mr Aston Martin said:
Depends on your ability and aim?

After experiencing the PDC where the drivers reveal the potential and depth of engineering behind the car I'm happy to leave the switch turned on. Then I'm quite happy pootling around.....
Yep, I don't want it to come across that I'm always thrashing the car - I guess I'm just used to cars that demand a bit more attention (Maserati, and before that TVRs) whereas the Aston seems to molycoddle...which is great 90% of the time but means you feel more like you're piloting than driving. Not wishing to offend anyone - I love the car and treat it well!

yeti

10,679 posts

304 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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I thiunk the system s very well judged in my car considering how much I have buggered about with it - wider rubber, more power etc.

Let us have a bit of fun at Millbrook without feeling intrusive at any point. Seems to come in when needed like a damp patch of road you didn't see.

I leave mine on and will continue to do so.

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

181 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Speak to Johng39, He will tell you all about Sport and Track mode combinations....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is in Italy for a week or so though.

George H

14,714 posts

193 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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I think Lunablack drives with it off. Not quite sure why though, I like having the safety net.

Stuart Dickinson

998 posts

236 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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johnnyBv8 said:
Just wondering whether anyone switches this off, or is it best left on? On my Maserati 3200, the Sport mode means that the wheels are allowed to lose a little traction before the system cuts in - which is nice on the (rare) occasion you get to drive spiritedly and feel that little bit of rear end squirm! However, due to its very aggressive turbo power delivery, the general advice is NEVER to turn the system off completely biggrin. Still getting used to the Vantage, but the power delivery is much more linear and it's far less of a handful. A couple of times I've felt the traction control cut in though, and it does so very early I would say. So...to my original question...!
For my money, the TC comes on too soon. Not as intrusive or early as some cars so that is a comment rather than a criticism but I like it off for the most part. Whenever I have it on and get the car steering nicely on the throttle it jumps in just that little bit early for my liking.

Mr Aston Martin

478 posts

189 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Aston-Martin-Rapide...

It's been seen before but the consequences of switching traction control off.

As Stoner commented on Rossi "his ambition exceeded his ability"

Stuart Dickinson

998 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Mr Aston Martin said:
http://www.zercustoms.com/news/Aston-Martin-Rapide...

It's been seen before but the consequences of switching traction control off.

As Stoner commented on Rossi "his ambition exceeded his ability"
That video description said the driver switched off the TC, and the car understeered upon exiting the highway?

Jockman

18,410 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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It is switchable for a reason - it depends how you feel like driving !

I always drive with it in the default position. Plus I generally have the wife sitting next to me.

Hence the 'boring fart' description biggrin

Murph7355

41,968 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I've driven with it off for a few months before (when the system failed) and noticed very little real world difference (dry and wet weather). The car is very progressive and gentle (especially in comparison to TVRs) and needs provoking to get tail happy. The older I get, the less I feel I want to do this on public roads.

I've rarely seen or felt the TC kick in (and I very much do not drive Miss Daisy). Part of this is undoubtedly down to focussing on the road when pressing on though, so it's rare I notice the flickering yellow light.

Two scenarios make it easy to light up. First are the aforementioned poor roads. The V8V suspension gets in a muddle on poor surfaces and it's very easy to make the rear skip around even with TC on. Second is in snow and ice.

If yours is kicking in early, I'd be interested to know the circumstances.

George H

14,714 posts

193 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Mr Aston Martin said:
As Stoner commented on Rossi "his ambition exceeded his ability"
That must have happened to Stoner for the past 2 weekends then. Not to mention how he would be the first to go and complain with that pass he pulled on Bautista.

Murph7355

41,968 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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George H said:
That must have happened to Stoner for the past 2 weekends then. Not to mention how he would be the first to go and complain with that pass he pulled on Bautista.
Indeed.

When the whinging schmuck Stoner has won a few more championships, and not wussed out every 5mins, maybe then he'll be able to deride Rossi's ability. I hear he's retiring though (Stoner) so that's not going to happen.

(As an aside, I always find it immensely ironic that Aussies call us Whinging Poms. I've never heard anything whine like an Aussie. Especially when they are getting beaten at sport).

johnnyBv8

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2,482 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Murph7355 said:
I've driven with it off for a few months before (when the system failed) and noticed very little real world difference (dry and wet weather). The car is very progressive and gentle (especially in comparison to TVRs) and needs provoking to get tail happy. The older I get, the less I feel I want to do this on public roads.

I've rarely seen or felt the TC kick in (and I very much do not drive Miss Daisy). Part of this is undoubtedly down to focussing on the road when pressing on though, so it's rare I notice the flickering yellow light.

Two scenarios make it easy to light up. First are the aforementioned poor roads. The V8V suspension gets in a muddle on poor surfaces and it's very easy to make the rear skip around even with TC on. Second is in snow and ice.

If yours is kicking in early, I'd be interested to know the circumstances.
Not sure that it's kicking in earlier than it should, it was really just that if I try to intentionally 'provoke' the car towards the end of its traction, it isn't easy to do so. I suspect this is a combination of the fact that the power isn't really there at low revs - for example when pulling away, the excellent grip that the car has, and the traction control system. As I say, the 'Sport' mode on my other car provides the middle ground whereby the driver aids come in later than they otherwise would - which is why I guess the Vantage feels a bit tame in comparison.

Lunablack

3,494 posts

191 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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George H said:
I think Lunablack drives with it off. Not quite sure why though, I like having the safety net.
I take care of my own safety..... I don't need a computer to do it for mesmile...

In 33 years of driving, the vantage is the first and only car I've ever owned with TC.... I don't understand why it's neededsmile

mikey k

13,074 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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yeti said:
I thiunk the system s very well judged. I leave mine on and will continue to do so.
+1 Never found it intrusive enough to bother switching it off.
Experience plays a big part in your "confidence" to switch it off I guess smile

yeti

10,679 posts

304 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Lunablack said:
I take care of my own safety..... I don't need a computer to do it for mesmile...

In 33 years of driving, the vantage is the first and only car I've ever owned with TC.... I don't understand why it's neededsmile
Coming from TVRs, still with a Marcos and an Esprit, I see your point. I never (AFAIK) activate mine and do drive as if I don't have it, therefore it makes no difference. The day a kid runs out in front of me, I swerve violently around a tractor or these's a patch of diesel on the road is the day i will be glad I left it on though wink

They don't cut in every time you floor it, it let's me drive as I wish. It's like a seat belt or airbag, never actually needed one. But one day I might be glad I left it on...

Mr Aston Martin

478 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Stuart Dickinson said:
That video description said the driver switched off the TC, and the car understeered upon exiting the highway?
Other versions on the net suggest he switched the TC off by mistake. That said when it goes wrong it goes pear shaped very quickly.

Mr Aston Martin

478 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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George H said:
That must have happened to Stoner for the past 2 weekends then. Not to mention how he would be the first to go and complain with that pass he pulled on Bautista.
A bit like John Terry, great natural ability but not amounting to much as a man.

Stuart Dickinson

998 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Mr Aston Martin said:
Stuart Dickinson said:
That video description said the driver switched off the TC, and the car understeered upon exiting the highway?
Other versions on the net suggest he switched the TC off by mistake. That said when it goes wrong it goes pear shaped very quickly.
Sounds a bit fishy - like a story for insurance maybe!!! The car is rear-drive, surely the TC being switched off would make no difference to it understeering, that is just carrying too much speed into the corner, or possibly even trying to take the corner with NO throttle!