Eurowatch Renewal
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V8 Animal

Original Poster:

6,015 posts

239 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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Ive had the renewal email come through today £250
Is it me being tight but i don't think it's worth the cost on a 5 year old car.

Whats the opinion on here?

Baron Von Alders

332 posts

310 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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Most of the time it's the insurance companies that insist upon it.

If you can find one that's no bothered whether you've a tracker or not then it's up to your own attitude to risk and whether you'd actually want the car back if it's been stolen.

Murph7355

41,969 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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Agree with the above. Personally don't think it's worth it.

Mind you, they still call me up when I forget to have my phone switched on or a tag in the car...and I didn't renew beyond the cover I got with the car smile

Jockman

18,410 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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I'm happy to pay £5 a week for this service on a £65k car.

However, I'm not regarded as the sharpest knife on this forum rolleyes

Mako V12V

3,139 posts

243 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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Jockman said:
I'm happy to pay £5 a week for this service on a £65k car.

However, I'm not regarded as the sharpest knife on this forum rolleyes
Agreed......on both counts.....tongue out

I used to have a tracker on my £30k Porsche 993 so there's nowt wrong with it on a £65k car!

I pay this too as it's an insurance requirement from Locktons (Chubb). But i'd pay it anyway on my £100k+ Mako beast!

v8woollie

4,363 posts

174 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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If you buy your own oil for a service the savings would pay for the Tracker subscription (I put this in for Nick smile )

On a serious note, why would you not want Tracker? If your car is stolen you have an excellent chance of getting it back quickly, and many car thieves don't even bother as they know that the Tracker is fitted.

Up to you but it doesn't seem like a fortune to pay on such an expensive car.

krisdelta

4,670 posts

230 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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Relatively small expense vs. value of your p+j - my insurance doesn't require it, but it's nice to know it's deterring n'er do wells. That and the crazy door handles. smile

MichaelV8V

650 posts

290 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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But it acts as a deterrent whether or not you've renewed it. How would anyone know?

MichaelV8V

650 posts

290 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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Apart from Murph's car of course, we all know the status of his tracker idea

RIB27

564 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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Personally I think it's worth it because I like the peace of mind. Sad as it is, I don't even go to bed without my phone within reach, so it's nice to know I'd be the first to know if some scrote tried to nick my P&J!

Murph7355

41,969 posts

285 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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As mentioned, how do scrotes know there's a tracker or not (or something somewhere in between as on special cars)?

Also, would you want your P&J back after some scrote's nicked it? As long as it's insured properly, why is it a massive concern (the cars we are talking about here aren't exactly rare per se)?

Each to their own.

I wonder if those who are advocating a tracker also insure their cars through the cheapo insurers smile


Slarti

1,828 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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Murph7355 said:
As mentioned, how do scrotes know there's a tracker or not (or something somewhere in between as on special cars)?

Also, would you want your P&J back after some scrote's nicked it? As long as it's insured properly, why is it a massive concern (the cars we are talking about here aren't exactly rare per se)?

Each to their own.

I wonder if those who are advocating a tracker also insure their cars through the cheapo insurers smile
The scrotes leave them parked up for a week or more to see if the tracker signal gets picked up. If not, then it probably doesn't have a tracker enabled and they're free to dismantle or export it.

Jockman

18,410 posts

189 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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Murph7355 said:
...I wonder if those who are advocating a tracker also insure their cars through the cheapo insurers smile
Are you saying that those with Trackers should overpay for their insurance Andy ?? I'm aware that most people try to get the cheapest deal for their insurance but I'm not too sure having a Tracker in anyway contradicts this ??

Pretty sure you're pulling our legs here though !!

Remember a GPS based tracker is not foolproof either smile

Murph7355

41,969 posts

285 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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Jockman said:
Are you saying that those with Trackers should overpay for their insurance Andy ?? I'm aware that most people try to get the cheapest deal for their insurance but I'm not too sure having a Tracker in anyway contradicts this ??

Pretty sure you're pulling our legs here though !!

Remember a GPS based tracker is not foolproof either smile
I'm not saying anyone should overpay (Yorkshiremen are second only to you Scots in terms of tightness). But the cheapest insurance isn't always the best insurance in terms of whether the company will pay up.

As you note, trackers are in no way foolproof. So spending money on one at the expense (perhaps) of using an insurance company more likely to cough up full value if the worst happens seems a little...perverse to me. But as you note, it wasn't an especially serious comment smile

Slarti said:
The scrotes leave them parked up for a week or more to see if the tracker signal gets picked up. If not, then it probably doesn't have a tracker enabled and they're free to dismantle or export it.
I would bet that any tracking firm would be happy to locate your vehicle for a suitable fee if your contract had lapsed but the car got nicked. They can evidently still "see" them when fees haven't been paid.

I suspect, however, that the MO you note only applies to certain circumstances - those nicking the car for onward sale or spares. I doubt it applies to those stealing it to rag the arse off it for a day or so (etc). Seeing how everyone gets nervous about buying cars used for track days etc, I would imagine "stolen recovered" cars will also take a hit value wise? I'm really not sure I'd want mine back.

BingoBob

1,098 posts

176 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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What we often refer to as "Stolen Recovered" are those cars for which the insurance has paid up, but then subsequently been recovered and sold on. If you car is stolen and recovered without the insurance giving you a cheque for the total amount then the theft won't be recorded on HPI.

Slarti

1,828 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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BingoBob said:
What we often refer to as "Stolen Recovered" are those cars for which the insurance has paid up, but then subsequently been recovered and sold on. If you car is stolen and recovered without the insurance giving you a cheque for the total amount then the theft won't be recorded on HPI.
Even if you don't get the cheque I.e. your car gets recovered part way through your claim, it's still goes down as stolen on the hpi record - it'd take 000s off the value of any Aston.

AMDBSNick

7,215 posts

191 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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Slarti said:
Even if you don't get the cheque I.e. your car gets recovered part way through your claim, it's still goes down as stolen on the hpi record - it'd take 000s off the value of any Aston.
Until the cheque has cleared the vehicle remains your property. The ins co will not record as SR until it becomes their property teacher

Mr Aston Martin

478 posts

189 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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I've always viewed the facility as the best chance of plod capturing the thieving scum. I appreciate it's a simplistic view but it provides me a warm feeling that some scrote will have plod breathing down their neck because of the tracker.

Slarti

1,828 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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AMDBSNick said:
Until the cheque has cleared the vehicle remains your property. The ins co will not record as SR until it becomes their property teacher
I'm speaking from personal experience... car gets nicked, i tell the insurance, we start the claims process, hpi recorded as stolen by police and insurance, car gets recovered, i get it back, police lift the stolen marker from hpi database, insurance company refuse to lift theirs. if what you say is true then i'd appreciate a reference to a mandate that i can hit the insurance co with because i lost a lot of money when i eventually sold that car.

AMDBSNick

7,215 posts

191 months

Thursday 23rd August 2012
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Slarti said:
I'm speaking from personal experience... car gets nicked, i tell the insurance, we start the claims process, hpi recorded as stolen by police and insurance, car gets recovered, i get it back, police lift the stolen marker from hpi database, insurance company refuse to lift theirs. if what you say is true then i'd appreciate a reference to a mandate that i can hit the insurance co with because i lost a lot of money when i eventually sold that car.
Funnily enough Slarti I had exactly the same problem many years ago and I work in the industry. What will have happened is some spotty clerk at the ins co has jumped the gun and registered it too early. I took legal advice to get mine removed for the same reason as you and basically was told the legal bills would outweigh the loss of value. It's little wonder ins co's have the reputation they do. Another reason I don't personally get involved in motor insurance