new DB9 top speed!
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JTJ

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53 posts

169 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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hello every one,

was looking at the "new" DB9`s pics and specs on AM website, iv noticed that top speed on the new DB9 is 183mph!.

i thought that was strange, the older ones had top speed of 186-190mph depending on spec and year.

183mph is the same top speed as the new vanquish II, and less than the DBS wich has the same engine and had a top speed of 191mph confused

so the the new DB9 is slower than the older one, the vanqish II is slower than the DBS wich is slower than the origenal Vanqish. hehe

did the older models have optimistic top speed and the new ones are more realistic?

any way, i like the fact that AM are just updating there lineup rather than overhauling it, eveing if the naming is bit confusing.

I wish if they offerd the new DB9 with a 6speed manual, it would be like a facelifted DBS biglaugh

Edited by JTJ on Wednesday 19th September 19:29

michael gould

5,698 posts

270 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Probably something to do with improving fuel economy.....doesnt effect me as I never exceed 175 smile

mikey k

13,074 posts

245 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Forget the top speed stats (on every car)
It's all about the in gear speeds (ratios selected by AM) and the torque curve if you are worried about stats
AM are practised masters of the model range tweak so don't try to dissect it beyond Grants book
If you are after one get and drive some

AWV12

650 posts

176 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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As I wrote in the new Vanquish thread a while ago, the top speed is limited because of the Touchtronic auto box. Also in the "old" DB9 and DBS, the top speed is lower in the TT2 cars, than the manual cars, and since the new cars are NOT available with manual gearbox anymore, this is one of the side effects (look at the detailed specs, and you see the different vMax of TT and manual cars).

JTJ said:
I wish if they offerd the new DB9 with a 6speed manual, it would be like a facelifted DBS biglaugh
Indeed, however: when it stays this way, I will enjoy it every time on the German Autobahn while passing a new DB9 or Vanquish, because my manual will go 10 km/h faster! smile

yeti

10,684 posts

304 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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As said - new DB9 and Vanquish are auto only frown

The faster DBS and DB9 speeds were quoted for the manuals. Like wot I have smile

George H

14,714 posts

193 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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I presume acceleration has been slightly improved then?

Jockman

18,410 posts

189 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Do people really care about top speed any more ??

Furthermore, the faster Aston is just going to be ridiculed by a Nissan anyway !!

Perhaps I'm just weird but driving the Aston has always been about the experience for me. Indeed, it's the only car I've driven in which I'm happy waiting lights smile

AWV12

650 posts

176 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Jockman said:
Do people really care about top speed any more ??

Furthermore, the faster Aston is just going to be ridiculed by a Nissan anyway !!

Perhaps I'm just weird but driving the Aston has always been about the experience for me. Indeed, it's the only car I've driven in which I'm happy waiting lights smile
Of course an Aston can be enjoyd at the traffic lights also, and even in traffic jam! smile

In Germany (40 minutes from my home) it is very common to drive long periods of time on the Autobahn with speeds well above 250 km/h, so yes, then top speed is not only a theoretical thing and can give the Aston experience another dimension! smile

Jockman

18,410 posts

189 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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AWV12 said:
Of course an Aston can be enjoyd at the traffic lights also, and even in traffic jam! smile

In Germany (40 minutes from my home) it is very common to drive long periods of time on the Autobahn with speeds well above 250 km/h, so yes, then top speed is not only a theoretical thing and can give the Aston experience another dimension! smile
yes

I would love to own a V12V or a DBS but on neither occasion would it be for their top speed capabilities smile

steveatesh

5,362 posts

193 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Jockman said:
Do people really care about top speed any more ??

Furthermore, the faster Aston is just going to be ridiculed by a Nissan anyway !!

Perhaps I'm just weird but driving the Aston has always been about the experience for me. Indeed, it's the only car I've driven in which I'm happy waiting lights smile
Plus one.

Sadly car reviews seem to focus on top speed and 0 - 60 times then decide which car is better based on the results. Or at least they place far too much emphasis on them anyway!

JTJ

Original Poster:

53 posts

169 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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mikey k said:
Forget the top speed stats (on every car)
It's all about the in gear speeds (ratios selected by AM) and the torque curve if you are worried about stats
AM are practised masters of the model range tweak so don't try to dissect it beyond Grants book
If you are after one get and drive some
not complaining about top speed, had a rapide and sold it and ever hardly exceeded 180km/h, and never said anything about the capability of AM engineering, I was pointing out a fact which is usually the other way around, and no I'm not after one [DB9].

t1blk

778 posts

209 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Personally it matters not the top speed of any car if the person behind the wheel isn't competent or confident enough to utilise the power they have under foot. It's nice to know that you have a high top speed but in all honesty how many of us are going to achieve it safely, I'll give it a good go in a straight line or under controlled conditions and with a little more tuition I'm sure I'll get the best out of my Aston as I will my own capabilities, but FFS lets not get so hung up on top speeds. I love driving mine just as much wafting and swanning about the country lanes enthusiastically as I do thrashing it down a near empty motorway.

FatFrank

133 posts

173 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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JTJ said:
.....so the the new DB9 is slower than the older one..........
I suspect that the car has much larger downforce and better lift balance than the old form utilising both the Virage front bumper together with the DBS decklid.....which would likely help to produce some improved lap times but a slightly lower ultimate top speed. Does anyone know if a Cd figure is quoted?.............either that or it's just a bit of Marketing spin to make sure that the cheaper car doesn't go faster...........

FF

XXXAngelXXX

1,713 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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AWV12 said:
Indeed, however: when it stays this way, I will enjoy it every time on the German Autobahn while passing a new DB9 or Vanquish, because my manual will go 10 km/h faster! smile
Albert - you are not allowed to cross the border tongue out

yeti

10,684 posts

304 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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FatFrank said:
aero-type stuff
No, it's just the fact that the new cars are only equipped with the auto box. Top speeds of the old 9/S were always the manual box, it just has a taller top gear!

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

181 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Jockman said:
.....Perhaps I'm just weird .........smile
Cannot believe you actually typed that roflroflrofl