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callevascm

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164 posts

178 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Today seemed like a normal day, a quiet drive of a 100 miles or so. Phone rang yesterday, was I interested in a "special offer". So today I dropped into the dealer - would I like a new V8V S, tungsten silver black interior? If I acted quickly and got the car registered by the end of the month then a really, really special deal was possible. Apparently "factory stock" held somewhere unknown needs to be shifted....by the end of the day my deposit is paid and I am considering what special outings I can have; plus booking another day at the PDC. Just wondering what the size of this "factory stockpile" is, the dealer didn't seem to know either. Appreciate the need for press cars, staff,demo's et al but new unregistered stock, surely thought that was the dealers domaine? A bit impetuous of me perhaps but I couldn't fault the argument to upgrade at the price on offer. Pictures to follow.

FatFrank

133 posts

173 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Okay, you have me interested. How good is/was the deal?

FF

bogie

17,075 posts

301 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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so its the end of a sales quarter, so someone obviously needs to meet their targets and maybe has marketing money left to help fund the deal smile

yeti

10,684 posts

304 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Like Bogie says... Jump on it smile

callevascm

Original Poster:

164 posts

178 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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The broad order of savings when buying this one one - tungsten silver/black interior (very similar to my current meteorite silver/black interior, boring I know but at least I don't confused), the price compared well to a second hand 12 or 18 month old one; explanation was that this is "old factory unregistered stock" and needs to be sold. OK I will have a greater depreciation hit in the first year - but it looks like a saving of at least £20K. I just find it hard to believe that a new unregistered car, owned by the factory, has been sitting somewhere and now it is heavily discounted, In my business I would worry about the cash flow!

Zod

35,295 posts

287 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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I got that call a year ago and ended up buying my V12v as a result.

callevascm

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164 posts

178 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Zod, did it turn out to be as good a deal as you hoped? Most manufacturers control their stock with some care as residuals are always subject to the variance of supply and demand and market influences. Anyone know how AML do this or is it "normal" to have a "factory stock" awaiting release? The dealers will have minium stock levels applied to them by AML but with the wide range of models, specs and customer requirements - stock cars seem to be a high risk for AML. Or am I completely on the wrong track and I am an even luckier bloke than I imagined!

Neilc123

258 posts

172 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Amazing. And to think when I point this out to dealers they laugh at me and say this never occurs with Aston Martin and that they would never even consider any offers on cars - the price you see is what you pay i am told time and time again.

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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callevascm said:
Zod, did it turn out to be as good a deal as you hoped? Most manufacturers control their stock with some care as residuals are always subject to the variance of supply and demand and market influences. Anyone know how AML do this or is it "normal" to have a "factory stock" awaiting release? The dealers will have minium stock levels applied to them by AML but with the wide range of models, specs and customer requirements - stock cars seem to be a high risk for AML. Or am I completely on the wrong track and I am an even luckier bloke than I imagined!
AM's "control" of these things is abysmal which is why the depreciation hit on the cars is so horrific.

That and the extremely optimistic list prices.

Neilc123

258 posts

172 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Amazing. And to think when I point this out to dealers they laugh at me and say this never occurs with Aston Martin and that they would never even consider any offers on cars - the price you see is what you pay i am told time and time again.

Neilc123

258 posts

172 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Amazing. And to think when I point this out to dealers they laugh at me and say this never occurs with Aston Martin and that they would never even consider any offers on cars - the price you see is what you pay i am told time and time again.

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Neilc123 said:
Amazing. And to think when I point this out to dealers they laugh at me and say this never occurs with Aston Martin and that they would never even consider any offers on cars - the price you see is what you pay i am told time and time again.
Really?

They've always been falling over themselves to shift the cars when I've been in the market.

Neilc123

258 posts

172 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Blimey. Must be just me then. When I was in the market I couldn't even get £1000 knocked off and I was thinking cash - so I went elsewhere. They seemed more interested in selling me finance.

Zod

35,295 posts

287 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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callevascm said:
Zod, did it turn out to be as good a deal as you hoped? Most manufacturers control their stock with some care as residuals are always subject to the variance of supply and demand and market influences. Anyone know how AML do this or is it "normal" to have a "factory stock" awaiting release? The dealers will have minium stock levels applied to them by AML but with the wide range of models, specs and customer requirements - stock cars seem to be a high risk for AML. Or am I completely on the wrong track and I am an even luckier bloke than I imagined!
Well, it knocked a big chunk off the list price of a new car, so I had nothing to complain about. There is not that much variation in V12V spec levels.

Neilc123

258 posts

172 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Absolutely right Zod. Sounds like you got a really great deal there!

Stefanolux

113 posts

175 months

Saturday 29th September 2012
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Apparently, the AM factory stock was very rich in V8V S tungsten silver/black interior because such a car also "appeared" here in Luxembourg - in the "public" garage, where I park my car at work - replacing a Porsche Carrera 997 4S. When I met him in the elevator, the new owner (young, happy? maybe!) told me that he is already having a problem with the paddles.

GlynV8

350 posts

200 months

Sunday 30th September 2012
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I am currently deciding whether to do exhaust and suspension upgrades with Bamford Rose on my 4.7 V8V, or upgrade to a V12V. The latter being about twice the cost of the former. Do I really need a V12?

callevascm

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164 posts

178 months

Sunday 30th September 2012
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GlynV8 said:
I am currently deciding whether to do exhaust and suspension upgrades with Bamford Rose on my 4.7 V8V, or upgrade to a V12V. The latter being about twice the cost of the former. Do I really need a V12?
GlynV8 - I guess you know you will generate a storm of debate! So first off there is "no right answer" only one person's preferences. As I have just gone through a similar mental process I'll share my thoughts - the first step is what do you want to use the car for, how do you get your pleasure and are the short or long term residual values important to you.
I was hugely impressed with the V12V, what a car - a bit like a rottweiler, great with a concentrating owner, lethal with a stranger with no understanding! Racing a pre-war crash gearbox car the paddle-shift is real wow for me - so easy and so satisfying - and if necessary I can relax. For me I wanted a fun car on for use on tight B roads with hopefully little traffic - long weekends for two and a car that my wife can drive with confidence - and we could use almost whatever the weather.

For what it is worth I did an informal straw poll of the AML driving instructors at Millbrook last June - 6 out of 9 said that would opt for a V8V S - for a fun drive or at a circuit like Spa. Not conclusive but it swayed me.

AML have now found my new V8V S, tucked-up in a shed at Newport Pagnell, hopefully PDI this week.

steveatesh

5,363 posts

193 months

Sunday 30th September 2012
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Do I take it AM don't make their cars on a "pull" basis from demand, but rather turn out cars to hit a quota then "push" them onto the market with the aid of discounts etc?

(I ask because I have a professional interest in the Toyota Production System (making cars at the rate of demand) in the service sector)

franki68

11,643 posts

250 months

Sunday 30th September 2012
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Neilc123 said:
Amazing. And to think when I point this out to dealers they laugh at me and say this never occurs with Aston Martin and that they would never even consider any offers on cars - the price you see is what you pay i am told time and time again.
Aston are notorious for massive discounts,the current market is so st even Porsche are doing huge discounts on 991s .
Try a different dealer