Db of a standard DB9
Db of a standard DB9
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SirMark

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570 posts

218 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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I am after some help please I am going on a track day at brands hatch but I am using my own car

Does anyone know the deb of the standard exhaust ?

Also whilst on the subject would you advise special track insurance and if so could you recommend someone

Tia


Mark

897sma

3,606 posts

173 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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There are quite a few apps for the iPhone for checking sound level if you have one. Not as accurate as a sound level meter but near enough for track day.

MaverickAM9

1,086 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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I have a DB9, took it to Castle Coombe to be tested, limit is 100db at Castle Coombe. With standard exhaust and fuse 22 OUT, I pasted the static test easy. I've since changed the exhaust, so I would need to be retested (I think i would fail now).

I pasted the STATIC test and did not take the drive-by test. When the car is under load the noise increases, so a drive-by test may be more difficult. But at the time I only had to pass the static test. I think the drive-by test is orientated towards neighbours who complain.

I know that if you pay for your trackday and then fail, you lose your money. Phone the Trackvenue and go there prior to the day and get your 9 tested. Your standard 9 should pass easy, if the limit is 105db, I think I might even pass myself.

Where is it, and what is the limit?

F1 NDW

1,116 posts

175 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Shape up Essex boy!
Googled "brands hatch noise limit" and found a page full of answers. 105db.

Locktons insurance cover you for track day's on the normal policy.

SirMark

Original Poster:

570 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Thanks Guys it's actually my wifes car and the day at brands hatch with tuition is so she can learn to drive it properly. smile and appreciate what it can really do.

Cheers for all the replies, very appreciated.

MaverickAM9

1,086 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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F1 NDW said:
Locktons insurance cover you for track day's on the normal policy.
A normal policy that covers track days?

Is it a normal policy as well?

George29

14,714 posts

193 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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897sma said:
There are quite a few apps for the iPhone for checking sound level if you have one. Not as accurate as a sound level meter but near enough for track day.
The one I downloaded was crap to be honest. It said my bike was 117dB without the baffle at 7.5k rpm. Oulton Park checked it at 106 without the baffle (had to put the baffle in as it was a 102 limit).

How do they check car noise limits? Does the engine layout and size affect revs it's checked at? How far behind the exhaust is it checked? Bikes are 0.5m at 45 degrees.

JaseB

917 posts

290 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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George29 said:
How do they check car noise limits? Does the engine layout and size affect revs it's checked at? How far behind the exhaust is it checked? Bikes are 0.5m at 45 degrees.
Same I believe, 3/4 revs.

Grant3

3,709 posts

284 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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MaverickAM9 said:
A normal policy that covers track days?

Is it a normal policy as well?
Yup, a great specialist Aston/AMOC policy, but I believe it only covers official Aston/AMOC track day events, not all smile

F1 NDW

1,116 posts

175 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Grant3 said:
Yup, a great specialist Aston/AMOC policy, but I believe it only covers official Aston/AMOC track day events, not all smile
I rang them up and said I was doing a track day at Oulton Park, not AMOC, they said OK.

MaverickV12

1,086 posts

167 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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Just went to a Track day driving to get my car tested for sound levels. I've put a snazzy exhaust on the car and I know that the car passed the 100Db limit before I put the exhaust on, so i wanted to see what it was now.

Tested at 1.0 metre at 45 degrees at 4500rpm as a static test, limit was 100Db.

Took the rpm up slowly and just failed the 100Db limit buy 102Db one side and 104Db the otherside, I was told that the sound level doubles every 3Db. I said that the drive-by test might be harder to pass, then we did the test again with me giving the car a good bit of, "go juice", again on the static test.

I hit 117.5Db ......opps eek

So when getting tested, make sure you rev very gently ..... wink

vankypanky

526 posts

214 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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i wouldnt follow that advice to be honest. at bedford they monitor the cars on the track and if you have got that far you will be pulled on your first lap and lose your fee and ruin your day. whats the point of that.
you should rev your car to a point typical for the track and know before. if it is too loud then it is too loud. get one that isnt.
last time there i saw EXACTLY this happen. the track marshalls arent stupid and they dont care who you are or what car you have, its their livelihood. you might get lucky at some places, you might not.

peterr96

2,226 posts

204 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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George29 said:
The one I downloaded was crap to be honest.
That's really no surprise.
I can see that they will allow vaguely representative comparisons of one thing to another but in terms of absolute noise they are light years away from having any form of calibration, knowledge of microphone frequency reponse, noise weightings etc etc.
Can an iphone or android handset microphone actually cope with 100 dB? I'd be amazed if they did.

The only way to measure noise and it have any relevance is with a calibrated meter and know what the weighting criteria is. As suggested, pitch up before hand and get it tested.

MaverickV12

1,086 posts

167 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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vankypanky said:
i wouldnt follow that advice to be honest. at bedford they monitor the cars on the track and if you have got that far you will be pulled on your first lap and lose your fee and ruin your day. whats the point of that.
you should rev your car to a point typical for the track and know before. if it is too loud then it is too loud. get one that isnt.
last time there i saw EXACTLY this happen. the track marshalls arent stupid and they dont care who you are or what car you have, its their livelihood. you might get lucky at some places, you might not.
Hello Vankypanky, i do apologise if I gave the impression that I was telling people to rev carefully on the static test. You're right, if the drive-by is cronic eek, they will pull you over. This was what I was talking about to them, and hence by, "go juice", test and got the 117.5Db nuts , that was a better indiaction of the level of noise. When the car is under load, it sounds a lot louder than a simple static test.

Sometime they do a 105Db track event, that might be an idea. Or just stick the exhaust back on for a track day.

I just have my exhaust for fun ....... biggrin

I read my posting again, and it could be read that I advice to rev carefully. I would like to clarify that Vankypanky is right, they are not stupid, if the drive by test is bad, they will retest with a second static test and you may be able to wangle a pass on the static, but they have the choice to just say no, especially if you are taking the piss out of them. You will lose your money and will go home with no photos of your track day. frown