ASTON MARTIN - UK ANNUAL SALES
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The 2012 UK new car registration figures have just been released.
These are the Aston Martin UK annual figures.
The V8 Vantage created a tremendous boost to sales numbers when it was introduced, but that initial excitement is over. For me the Vantage is a wonderful sports car to keep, but most buyers seem to want the latest product, and therefore move on.
These are the Aston Martin UK annual figures.
Year | New Registrations |
---|---|
2004 | 636 |
2005 | 1796 |
2006 | 2292 |
2007 | 2190 |
2008 | 1565 |
2009 | 1183 |
2010 | 1080 |
2011 | 1024 |
2012 | 932 |
The V8 Vantage created a tremendous boost to sales numbers when it was introduced, but that initial excitement is over. For me the Vantage is a wonderful sports car to keep, but most buyers seem to want the latest product, and therefore move on.
Edited by Jon39 on Monday 7th January 21:12
Jon39 said:
I think AML now export about 70% of their production.
That makes sense, but I still thought that they were making about 7000 AM's per year, i'm obviously waaaaay out. If they are only making 1000, then surely that has to be DBS's, V12V etc, it cannot be V8V or DB9's, if there are only about 1000 a year, there is no room for, "base", cars, is there?
Am I guessing right here ........ ?
MaverickV12 said:
That makes sense, but I still thought that they were making about 7000 AM's per year, i'm obviously waaaaay out.
If they are only making 1000, then surely that has to be DBS's, V12V etc, it cannot be V8V or DB9's, if there are only about 1000 a year, there is no room for, "base", cars, is there?
Am I guessing right here ........ ?
AM make around 4,000 cars per year according to the chap that lead the factory tour in November. If they are only making 1000, then surely that has to be DBS's, V12V etc, it cannot be V8V or DB9's, if there are only about 1000 a year, there is no room for, "base", cars, is there?
Am I guessing right here ........ ?
v8woollie said:
MaverickV12 said:
That makes sense, but I still thought that they were making about 7000 AM's per year, i'm obviously waaaaay out.
If they are only making 1000, then surely that has to be DBS's, V12V etc, it cannot be V8V or DB9's, if there are only about 1000 a year, there is no room for, "base", cars, is there?
Am I guessing right here ........ ?
AM make around 4,000 cars per year according to the chap that lead the factory tour in November. If they are only making 1000, then surely that has to be DBS's, V12V etc, it cannot be V8V or DB9's, if there are only about 1000 a year, there is no room for, "base", cars, is there?
Am I guessing right here ........ ?
snuffy said:
I was amazed when someone on here said ( a few months ago ) there are only about 5,000 V8Vs in the UK.
It was probably me. Is there a medical term for being obsessed with numbers (I nearly wrote figures then)?When you split the 4.3 and 4.7 Vantages you might also be amazed, at the much lower proportion of 4.7s. The end of the economic boom coincided with the announcement of the 4.7, so that certainly put off some new buyers.
The numbers would obviously be higher now, but at the end of 2011, according to DVLA (whose records are not always precise);
UK Registrations (incl SORNs)
4.3 Coupes = 3301
4.3 Roadsters = 16
4.7 Coupes = 802
4.7 Roadsters = 213
Not sure whether the S is included, or indeed when it was first introduced.
Yes George, I did give the proviso.
I have experience of their errors myself. From new, my Mercedes has had completely the wrong model description on the DVLA records. I have now given up trying to have it corrected. Even the manufacturer cannot describe the model details properly, in the letter that is required.
932 new AM's in the UK, whilst I am amazed it is so low, it does raise the issue of bolstering up second hand values
I was always under the impression that cars went down like lead ballons, not that I'm saying that AM's are appreciating, but I know that that will not happen, but surely the second hand values are more stable than other main stream cars ....
Does our resident numbers obsessed, Jon39, man have any figures to back up or discredit my comment ..... ?
I was always under the impression that cars went down like lead ballons, not that I'm saying that AM's are appreciating, but I know that that will not happen, but surely the second hand values are more stable than other main stream cars ....
Does our resident numbers obsessed, Jon39, man have any figures to back up or discredit my comment ..... ?
MaverickV12 said:
932 new AM's in the UK, whilst I am amazed it is so low, it does raise the issue of bolstering up second hand values
I was always under the impression that cars went down like lead ballons, not that I'm saying that AM's are appreciating, but I know that that will not happen, but surely the second hand values are more stable than other main stream cars ....
Maverick - It's that old chestnut, supply and demand.I was always under the impression that cars went down like lead ballons, not that I'm saying that AM's are appreciating, but I know that that will not happen, but surely the second hand values are more stable than other main stream cars ....
932 sold during 2012 in the UK, but if in a couple of years, perhaps 3000 buyers want them, then happy times. What is more likely though, is that by about 2016, half the new value of those cars will have disappeared.
I wonder how the Vantage Zagato values will move? My own preference on that, is to favour the design of the normal Vantage.
Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 8th January 13:01
George29 said:
I don't believe that one bit! That means over half the 4.3 V8VRs are for sale on PH at this moment in time.
Was the data from Howmanyleft.com?
Good man, well spotted George.Was the data from Howmanyleft.com?
What did Capt. Mainwaring say, "I wondered who would be the first to notice that"
I was puzzled by that low figure too, but assumed (wrongly I realise now) that the Roadster was introduced near the end of 4.3 litre production.
The data in the table at the start of this topic, is issued by the motor industry, and you are right about the model splits, that is from 'howmanyleft?'. They are on a 'hiding to nothing' though, because I think manufacturers initially provide the model information paperwork (might not even be paper these days) to the dealers, who then pass it on to the DVLA with the customer details for registration.
In the case of my own Mercedes mentioned above, the manufacturer introduced a new model, but the registration paperwork being released by Mercedes-Benz UK, continued to show the previous model description.
It is therefore possible that when the Roadster was introduced, perhaps somehow the Roadster description was omitted, and so some of these cars are in the DVLA database as Coupes. Who knows?
If any 4.3 Vantage Roadster PHers are interested, please look on your V5C Registration Certificate, to see what is shown. We might be able to unravel this mystery.
For my own 4.7 Coupe it shows;
D2 Type: Variant C9, Version RZCMCC
D3 Model: VANTAGE V8
D5 Body type: 3 DOOR HATCHBACK
Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 8th January 11:02
Jon39 said:
If any 4.3 Vantage Roadster PHers are interested, please look on your V5C Registration Certificate, to see what is shown. We might be able to unravel this mystery.
For my own 4.7 Coupe it shows;
D2 Type: Variant C9, Version RZCMCC
D3 Model: VANTAGE V8
D5 Body type: 3 DOOR HATCHBACK
Ok , I'll play....For my own 4.7 Coupe it shows;
D2 Type: Variant C9, Version RZCMCC
D3 Model: VANTAGE V8
D5 Body type: 3 DOOR HATCHBACK
Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 8th January 11:02
4.3 V8V Roadster;
Date Of First Registration : 01 03 2008
D2 Type: Variant B1, Version R2BMCC
D3 Model: VANTAGE V8
D5 Body type: CONVERTIBLE
Cheers,
Nick
Unfortunately howmanyleft, whilst incredibly interesting and sometimes a lot of fun, as others have said is also incredibly inaccurate
Look up DB9 on how many left - there should be two models, namely volante and coupe. Maybe with a separate entry for manuals or autos in each instance, which would create 4 'models'. But different people put different bits in the description, so....
If you check DB9 you will find EIGHT models: DB9, DB9 Auto, DB9 V12, DB9 V12 Auto and then you'd think the same again but with the word Volante added in each instance but no - the other four are db9 volante, db9 v12 volante auto, db9 volante v12 auto and db9 volante auto. So no db9 v12 volante !
It get's better. There are 75 licenced 'DB9 Volantes'. Only 64 of them list an engine size. 61 of them are in the section for 5750cc - 5999cc capcity. One is in 6000cc - 6249cc. One is in 4250cc - 4499cc. And one is in 500cc - 749 cc !!!!!
Incidentally, another great ap & site is my car check where you can put in the reg to see the car's DVLA listing - often very interesing
Look up DB9 on how many left - there should be two models, namely volante and coupe. Maybe with a separate entry for manuals or autos in each instance, which would create 4 'models'. But different people put different bits in the description, so....
If you check DB9 you will find EIGHT models: DB9, DB9 Auto, DB9 V12, DB9 V12 Auto and then you'd think the same again but with the word Volante added in each instance but no - the other four are db9 volante, db9 v12 volante auto, db9 volante v12 auto and db9 volante auto. So no db9 v12 volante !
It get's better. There are 75 licenced 'DB9 Volantes'. Only 64 of them list an engine size. 61 of them are in the section for 5750cc - 5999cc capcity. One is in 6000cc - 6249cc. One is in 4250cc - 4499cc. And one is in 500cc - 749 cc !!!!!
Incidentally, another great ap & site is my car check where you can put in the reg to see the car's DVLA listing - often very interesing
George29 said:
Jon39 said:
4.3 Roadsters = 16
I don't believe that one bit! That means over half the 4.3 V8VRs are for sale on PH at this moment in time.Was the data from Howmanyleft.com? The figures on that are usually complete bks.
I recall the factory tour guide saying in the Autumn there were 4,500 Vantages in the UK same as the annual output of 911's
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