Rattling wipers
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8Tech

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2,212 posts

228 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Has anyone experienced a rattle from the wiper linkage/motor on a DB9 or similar?

I just bought and paid for a 2006 DB9 Volante, insured it, bought an expensive cover for it, ordered and paid for the carbon fibre mirror caps, door handles and taillight inserts, bought clear taillights for it, bought a private plate for it which is now registered on the car and sold my existing car, only to be told by the selling dealer, an Aston Martin Specialist, that they are now withdrawing from the sale, 2 weeks after paying for it, because the ENGINE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED to access the wiper linkage and cure the rattle.

I bought this car from a dealer in the Pistonheads classifieds.

Am I being properly shafted because they have sold at a higher price to someone else or does this sound legit?

Cheers.

e600

1,522 posts

182 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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If the garage is reputable (is it anAM dealer) let them do the work on the car and collect it when finished. If you have paid for it it's your car. The wiper linkage issue is then a warranty repair.

If its not an AM dealership, or very similar, leave it get your money and carry on with the hunt.

Best of luck

Neil1300R

5,768 posts

208 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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You are being shafted.

X7LDA

940 posts

234 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Neil1300R said:
You are being shafted.
This. Never heard something so ridiculous. What specialist is it?

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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How the hell are they pulling out if they have your money and you've paid for it?
I'd call Trinity/Bridge Mill/BR and price the job with them

peterr96

2,226 posts

205 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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8Tech said:
because the ENGINE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED to access the wiper linkage and cure the rattle.

Cheers.
I'm pretty sure that this is true.
When we bought our V8V back in 06 some of the sales patter from the dealer was telling us about the "virtual technician" that Ford brought to the party AFTER the DB9 was born.
It ran virtual component changes and highlighted collisions when replacing parts. The wiper assembly was specifically mentioned as an engine out job on the DB9.
On the V8V I can allegedly change the wiper assembly with the engine in place.

But that was a salesman telling me that!

AMDBSNick

7,216 posts

192 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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peterr96 said:
I'm pretty sure that this is true.
When we bought our V8V back in 06 some of the sales patter from the dealer was telling us about the "virtual technician" that Ford brought to the party AFTER the DB9 was born.
It ran virtual component changes and highlighted collisions when replacing parts. The wiper assembly was specifically mentioned as an engine out job on the DB9.
On the V8V I can allegedly change the wiper assembly with the engine in place.

But that was a salesman telling me that!
I'm sorry but I too have heard this from somewhere. Why don't you call an authorised dealer

taylor172

833 posts

234 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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yep, im pretty sure this is actually correct. the wiper motor is up under the bulkhead and there is naff all room.

v8woollie

4,363 posts

175 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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If you have paid for the car and ownership is transferred to you (and you have the V5 in your name?) you are the legal owner. You have recourse to the dealer because there is a fault on the car, so they have to get that fixed for you.

Personally I'd give it back, ask for your money to be returned plus any costs you have incurred as part of taking ownership. Then go to a dealer that will treat you right, and there are a lot of them out there.

If they don't accept, then I'd seek legal advice.

v8woollie

4,363 posts

175 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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[quote=peterr96]

The wiper assembly was specifically mentioned as an engine out job on the DB9.
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If true, that is British workmanship at its best. Reminds me of my V12 XJS (yes folks, I did have an engine with the correct number of cylinders once!). The front two spark plugs were rarely changed at service due to having to remove lots of stuff (the aircon I think was one part) to get to them.

AMDBSNick

7,216 posts

192 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Confirmed by me dealer (AM) engine out job yikes

peterr96

2,226 posts

205 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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v8woollie said:
peterr96 said:
The wiper assembly was specifically mentioned as an engine out job on the DB9.
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If true, that is British workmanship at its best. Reminds me of my V12 XJS (yes folks, I did have an engine with the correct number of cylinders once!). The front two spark plugs were rarely changed at service due to having to remove lots of stuff (the aircon I think was one part) to get to them.
It's those 4 extra cylinders and the front/mid layout that make all the trouble.
I wonder what the gig is with the V12V wipers....... that V12 sure is well lubricated and shoehorned in there scratchchin

v8woollie

4,363 posts

175 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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AMDBSNick said:
Confirmed by me dealer (AM) engine out job yikes
Wow! I wonder what the MTBF of the wiper motor is. Can't imagine many owners being happy having to have an engine removed to replace the wiper motor, especially if not under warranty. As Peter asked, I wonder if the V12V is the same.

Neil1300R

5,768 posts

208 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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AMDBSNick said:
Confirmed by me dealer (AM) engine out job yikes
Wow. Sure I could get to it on a V8. Knew there was a good reason for not having a surplus of cylinders. wink

gmacdb9

236 posts

162 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Check your purchase contract to see whether they really are entitled to withdraw. If they have accepted your offer to purchase the car (which seems quite likely if you paid two weeks ago), you should have a contract from which they can not withdraw. But it will depend on the wording of the document you signed.

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Neil1300R said:
AMDBSNick said:
Confirmed by me dealer (AM) engine out job yikes
Wow. Sure I could get to it on a V8. Knew there was a good reason for not having a surplus of cylinders. wink
:yeshehe

jeremydb9

245 posts

166 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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If it wasn't for the fact it is real it would be funny.

I would image the car is yours ( your paid for it). But, why do they want to back out. Presumably they are going to have to fix it anyway? Unless they just plan to resell and hope no one notices. I would think it is in everyones interest to name the dealer!

Neil1300R

5,768 posts

208 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Looking at the OP's profile, couldn't he just do it himself? smile

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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jeremydb9 said:
If it wasn't for the fact it is real it would be funny.

I would image the car is yours ( your paid for it). But, why do they want to back out. Presumably they are going to have to fix it anyway? Unless they just plan to resell and hope no one notices. I would think it is in everyones interest to name the dealer!
+1

Do it in Cockernee and we will get the mad one to translate.

st design.

8Tech

Original Poster:

2,212 posts

228 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Neil1300R said:
Looking at the OP's profile, couldn't he just do it himself? smile
Sure, I could, but I didn't buy a car to pull the motor out and start doing major repairs. I would also get carried away and start playing with that engine once it was on the floor! If I was doing that, I would expect the price to reflect the work necessary.

I may know BMW's inside out, especially the E31 8-Series (hence my name) and E53 X5, but not the Astons, so I don't intend fiddling with the car any more than cosmetic stuff until the warranty expires.

My 15 years at Ford were many years ago so working on a Ford built Aston will be as alien as working on it after BMW's.

8Tech.