AMG to supply Aston with engines - OFFICIAL
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http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mercedes-a...
It is confirmation of a letter of intent to be formalised by end of this yr, for AMG engines & Mercedes electrical/electronic components to be supplied to AML with a 5% stake in AML taken by Mercedes
It is confirmation of a letter of intent to be formalised by end of this yr, for AMG engines & Mercedes electrical/electronic components to be supplied to AML with a 5% stake in AML taken by Mercedes
Finally the chance of a 21st Century SatNav!!sportie said:
I feel the beginning of the end for AML I certainly wouldn't buy a MB engined Aston and AML will become a division of MB in time, very sad news for the brand.
But you would buy a Ford/Jaguar engined one? I think it's a good think. The 6.2 V8 is a fantastic engine.
ETA: I guess you wouldn't have a Pagani either?
Edited by George29 on Thursday 25th July 11:01
George29 said:
I thought they only just signed a deal with Ford?
My thoughts too. IIRC, that was to extend the life (significantly ?) of supply of the V12 engine 'blocks' which Aston then 'enhance' ?At risk of stating the obvious, this means one of three things - either a long time til AMG engines come into play, a cancellation of the Ford agreement (perhaps there is no or a low minimum quantity promised to Ford ?) or a reasonable period of time when both Ford & AMG engines will be used, depending on the model
From the Aston Martin website...
http://www.astonmartin.com/news#id=d0dd8533-81ba-6...
Specifically a bespoke V8.
This is good news for the next generation Vantage!
http://www.astonmartin.com/news#id=d0dd8533-81ba-6...
Specifically a bespoke V8.
This is good news for the next generation Vantage!
jonby said:
a reasonable period of time when both Ford & AMG engines will be used, depending on the model
AMG V8s and Ford/Aston V12s
To be honest, this is fantastic news; have you seen the power this engine can be tuned to be produced?? Genuine Ferrari rivals can be made now and some decent gearboxes will be available.
Thank you MB
I'm happy very about this, think it's great news for the next Vantage.
Interesting where Aston go power wise with the C63 having an option of 487hp from Merc, you'd think they'd need something a bit more for the much higher priced Vantage. But that would mean the V12's would need to be much more powerful to keep the range in order. Didn't someone mention 780hp somewhere....
Interesting where Aston go power wise with the C63 having an option of 487hp from Merc, you'd think they'd need something a bit more for the much higher priced Vantage. But that would mean the V12's would need to be much more powerful to keep the range in order. Didn't someone mention 780hp somewhere....
outofstepuk said:
I'm happy very about this, think it's great news for the next Vantage.
Interesting where Aston go power wise with the C63 having an option of 487hp from Merc, you'd think they'd need something a bit more for the much higher priced Vantage. But that would mean the V12's would need to be much more powerful to keep the range in order. Didn't someone mention 780hp somewhere....
They get 510bhp out of that engine in C63 Black Series spec. Interesting where Aston go power wise with the C63 having an option of 487hp from Merc, you'd think they'd need something a bit more for the much higher priced Vantage. But that would mean the V12's would need to be much more powerful to keep the range in order. Didn't someone mention 780hp somewhere....
whoami said:
yeti said:
some decent gearboxes will be available.
Hopefully not the crap one from the SLS though.George29 said:
They get 510bhp out of that engine in C63 Black Series spec.
Very true, but that's a car around the same price as the next Vantage will likely be. I was more meaning they had to be higher than a car with a much lower price. Maybe the 500bhp will be the magic figure for the next V8
whoami said:
yeti said:
some decent gearboxes will be available.
Hopefully not the crap one from the SLS though.Can AML make/buy software that can switch between modes? Along with switchable dampers, the character of the car can be changed at the bush of a button
Edited by yeti on Thursday 25th July 12:17
yeti said:
whoami said:
yeti said:
some decent gearboxes will be available.
Hopefully not the crap one from the SLS though.In the 458 it's rated as one of the very best dual clutch sports car boxes ever. As you say, Merc slow the shift down for longevity but have been working on that more recently IIRC - the SLS black for instance has improved shift times
Going back to the point about AMG V8s and touching on the various comments above in relation to same, it will indeed be an interesting balancing act between what kind of power Aston's AMG V8s have and what they do with the V12s to stop them overlapping, especially as one assumes the V12s are heavier. Can't really see a place for a 565bhp V12 with a 500ish (give or take) lighter V8 also in the line up. They certainly couldn't do that in the same car (e.g. vantage) although arguably less of an issue if they use solely V8s in vantage and solely V12s in GTs
Perhaps as brought up by others recently, the V12 will go forced induction, with the Rapide hydrogen race car being early testing of same
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