preparing for the demise of XP using a Windows 8 Update Disc
preparing for the demise of XP using a Windows 8 Update Disc
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steveatesh

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5,366 posts

194 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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I would like to prepare for the demise of XP support etc. by hopefully preparing a CDROM or DVD(if necessary) from which I can install a copy of XP SP3 onto a fresh install, and then upgrade to Windows 8 Pro.

The reason is I have a licenced version of XP Home with Service Pack 2 on disc. I just bought a Windows 8 Pro disc which can upgrade from XP with SP3 (Check - read the very small print before buying Windows).

As I see it I need to have a hard copy of SP3, or XP Home with SP3 installed, from which I can perform a fresh install (say on a new PC or to reformat and re-install), then upgrade to Windows 8 Pro.

I believe the XP update site may still work after support stops, but I'd rather have the Discs if possible so I am not relying on that eventuality.

Is there a way to prepare and keep a bootable XP SP3 Disc that would be suitable, and if so how?

AMDBSNick

7,220 posts

192 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Steve I know the AM forum has been a bit quiet of late but please......... wink

steveatesh

Original Poster:

5,366 posts

194 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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AMDBSNick said:
Steve I know the AM forum has been a bit quiet of late but please......... wink
Bloody hell, a complete fail!

maybe it's time I swapped for a DB9 - obviously I have Alzheimer's coming, I thought I was on the Computer section!

Anyway, it will provide a means of talking about drinking, weekends out, insurance, Jockman, Carbon bits and no doubt much much more!

I'm off to take my tablets............. smile

montecristo

1,081 posts

207 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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AMDBSNick said:
Steve I know the AM forum has been a bit quiet of late but please......... wink
biggrin

I often feel like posting non-AM questions on here, because Aston owners are clearly a better breed of people to ask.

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Yo, Steve....I've just bought a laptop (sick of running dropbox on a tablet) and Windows 8 was pre-installed.

What a load of ste.

I've made all the adjustments in the notification section to ensure I run a normal desktop without those ridiculous pre-installed apps yes

Jon39

14,929 posts

173 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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steveatesh said:
I would like to prepare for the demise of XP support etc. by hopefully preparing a CDROM or DVD(if necessary) from which I can install a copy of XP SP3 onto a fresh install, and then upgrade to Windows 8 Pro.

The reason is I have a licenced version of XP Home with Service Pack 2 on disc. I just bought a Windows 8 Pro disc which can upgrade from XP with SP3 (Check - read the very small print before buying Windows).

As I see it I need to have a hard copy of SP3, or XP Home with SP3 installed, from which I can perform a fresh install (say on a new PC or to reformat and re-install), then upgrade to Windows 8 Pro.

I believe the XP update site may still work after support stops, but I'd rather have the Discs if possible so I am not relying on that eventuality.

Is there a way to prepare and keep a bootable XP SP3 Disc that would be suitable, and if so how?
Seems to be quite a panic.

The world of technology announces their product is obsolete, and almost everyone buys the latest version. Brilliant.

XP is considered one of the best verions of Windows.
It will continue to work after support ends, as I still prove with DOS 3 and Windows 98.

There is a cheap and simple protection against attack. Keep your important private data on a PC that is not connected to the outside world.

Can we talk Aston Martin now?


Jon1967x

8,176 posts

154 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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I imagine you need either an emergency boot disk or installation disk of XP at SP3. You could see if anyone has a version of windows you can borrow for the install process. The licence key is generally not on the media so if all the install is doing is verifying you had a version of XP then the version you have could be fine.

The easiest route they want you to follow is to update to SP3 then upgrade although as you've probably sussed its a one way trip. And I'm not a great fan of backup and restore on windows.

I upgraded to 7 and I used a different hard disk, got it working, copied all the files across etc but it does mean a re-install of all applications etc which for me was an option to get rid of all the old rubbish. Computers do seem to run better after a fresh install compared to an upgrade so I'd recommend that route anyway.

Its also customary on the site to post pictures of new acquisitions smile


dredders

267 posts

175 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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You could create a Virtual machine image of your current WinXP OS

https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows

You can then treat this as a backup and even 'run it as a VM' should you ever need to.

baldyash

100 posts

167 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Windows 8 is the spawn of the DEVIL!Dont go there!

mcm66

240 posts

211 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Agree windows 8 is pain in the arse. I'm not 15, I don't want my laptop to look like an Ipad.
I do grown up work on mine.


Neil1300R

5,769 posts

208 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Jockman said:
Yo, Steve....I've just bought a laptop (sick of running dropbox on a tablet) and Windows 8 was pre-installed.

What a load of ste.

I've made all the adjustments in the notification section to ensure I run a normal desktop without those ridiculous pre-installed apps yes
yes
Got mine to look like Windows 7 most of the time. Can't be bothered with using Windows 8 in Tile mode as the PC also runs Android - for when I want that type of functionality and obvioulsy loads more apps. Even got MS Office running on Adroid.

Quinny

15,933 posts

296 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Jockman said:
Yo, Steve....I've just bought a laptop (sick of running dropbox on a tablet) and Windows 8 was pre-installed.

What a load of ste.
Perhaps its just a language / terminology issue....

This might help

The Recycle Bin is labeled "Sh*te bin"

My Computer is called "This Sh*te"

My Documents is called "Me Sh*te"

Dial Up Networking is called "Me mates"

Control Panel is known as "How we fook aboot wi the settins"

Hard Drive is referred to as "Big disk wi aall me stuff on it"

The 'Start' button has been renamed "Haweh!"

CHANGES IN TERMINOLOGY IN windowz 8

OK.........Alreet
Cancel............Fook that
Yes..........Aye
No.......Nee fookin chance
Help............Ah cannit dee it

Also note that WINDAZ 8 does not recognize capital letters or
punctuation marks. Some programs that are exclusive to WINDAZ 8:

Tipe Rita...a word processing program
Cullarin book..............a graphics program
Addin masheen.............calculator
P*rn.....................Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Andy.....you've turned into a Geordie !!!! biggrin

Quinny

15,933 posts

296 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Jockman said:
Andy.....you've turned into a Geordie !!!! biggrin
Geordie, Scott....... It's all foreign to mesmile

But at least I didn't use Yo Jockman rolleyes







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snuffy

13,292 posts

314 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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XP is not being killed, it just will not be getting any further updates. So what ?

snuffy

13,292 posts

314 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Jockman said:
Yo, Steve....I've just bought a laptop (sick of running dropbox on a tablet) and Windows 8 was pre-installed.
What a load of ste.
Just install 8.1 and a proper start button (http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/). Then you can boot directly to the desktop and have a start that looks and functions just like Windows 7. You need never see the metro/tile interface again !

Neil1300R

5,769 posts

208 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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snuffy said:
XP is not being killed, it just will not be getting any further updates. So what ?
Too true. If it ain't broke, leave it alone.

snuffy

13,292 posts

314 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Neil1300R said:
snuffy said:
XP is not being killed, it just will not be getting any further updates. So what ?
Too true. If it ain't broke, leave it alone.
The trouble is, people think if they have a machine with XP on it something dreadful is going to happen. Nothing is going to happen, everything will carry on as before in XP land; the only difference is MS will not update it any more.

Quinny

15,933 posts

296 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Neil1300R said:
Too true. If it ain't broke, leave it alone.
If Henry Ford had the same philosophy..... We'd still be driving around in model T'ssmile



Thinking about it, that'd be quite coolcool

Jon39

14,929 posts

173 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Neil1300R said:
Too true. If it ain't broke, leave it alone.
I agree, and certainly put that into practice.
Far too many people want to have the latest software, with a pretty appearance.

You may not believe it, but I still use a Lotus 123 spreadsheet (remember that?).

I don't care how pretty the numbers look, I just want money making numbers.